W. makes it official..the Wright Amendment is history.

[capt. megadeth]

Your wages are what you negotiated, not what you're worth. My company is my company, it is not a democracy or communist, its mine, and I can do what I want with its assets.

If I decide that the coffers can afford to pay me $XXX, why should I settle for $XX? If you are happy making $YY, why should I offer to pay you more than $Y? Its more for me and the bottom line. If business should go in the toilet, you're going to make $Y, where I may not take anything home.

Thats why I'm the boss, and you work for me.

Dude...I was not talking about the owner/founder of the company....I am talking about executives. You are making no sense.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Your wages are what you negotiated, not what you're worth. My company is my company, it is not a democracy or communist, its mine, and I can do what I want with its assets.

If I decide that the coffers can afford to pay me $XXX, why should I settle for $XX? If you are happy making $YY, why should I offer to pay you more than $Y? Its more for me and the bottom line. If business should go in the toilet, you're going to make $Y, where I may not take anything home.

Thats why I'm the boss, and you work for me.

What you are referring to is a private company. Not a PUBLIC corporation with a BOD and other stockholders.

Go back into the shelter, the Russians are still invading. We'll come get you when its safe.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

Good.

That’s the problem with this country, restrictions on business. A business should not have any restrictions and should only have to follow basic common sense laws.

Any airline should be able to fly anywhere, at anytime and charge whatever it wants whenever it wants. I don’t know why that is not allowed. If an airline can operate safely under FAA regulations I don’t see what the problem is.

Chapter 11 is also nonsense and should not be allowed either. If you can't pay your bills well then you don't deserve to exist. If that were the case Delta, NW, UAL and especially US Air wouldn't be around with their subpar products. Airlines like SW who actually can make a buck even with all the laws designed to put them out of business would be able to flourish. Much like unions these laws protect the lazy and the groups cannot cut it when there is superior competition. This IS communism for crying out loud!

Sometimes the USA reminds me of a communist country the way we treat businesses and lazy workers and don't even get me started on those silly restrictions on foreign ownership.

Nice thought. Go work for Cathay or Emirates if you want the free market to reign. Most of us learned in College that a total free market doesn't really exist. The closest you will get is in Hong Kong.

 

[erj-145mech]

It doesn't matter who's the boss, the head cheese makes the rules, and every one else lives by them, or is not part of the organization. Its the same for the founder or the President. Do you think that the BOD of AA think that Don Carty is worth his salary, compared to a ramper at ORD? Of course they do, other wise he'd be history. But he calls the shots, and thats why he demands the bucks.

If you don't think that your boss is worth the bucks, call him out on it?

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

Coolhand Luke,

Man, I thought you put up a good thread. Looks like somebody had a stick and started stirrin dat antbed though. On a more positive note, you ready to catch some Reds, eh? Its gonna be a good weekend.

The coonass

Yep...can you bring some of that Canyon Blue coolaide with ya brother? I might get thirsty while I am fighting those big ole' fish all day in the gulf!

 

[DonVerita]

If you are not happy with your wages, get a real job. You're not limited if you una$$ the cockpit seat.

Simma down there Sparky...

First off, this is a board for Major Airline pilots. Take your snot nose Cessna experience over to the Private pilot board.

Next, don't come in here lecturing us about going somewhere else. This profession isn't like being a doctor or lawyer where you can just pick up and go down the street to the next office; and probably get a raise from doing it. If a pilot leaves a major airline, he starts at the bottom of whatever airline he goes to. So it behooves him to stick with the one he's got and fight to make it better for himself and his fellow pilots.

You carte blanche business types have no clue as to how the airline industry operates on a people level.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

. Do you think that the BOD of AA think that Don Carty is worth his salary, compared to a ramper at ORD? Of course they do, other wise he'd be history. But he calls the shots, and thats why he demands the bucks.

Wrong!

The BOD does what it does because of politics. Thats how they got to be a director in the first place. Directors, BTW, do almost squat and are paid huge for it. The CEO gets his job due to politics. And, unless they screw up, they keep them by keeping these political ties going. Yes he has to have a top business mind and be tough. But he is not necessarily the best.

You come from the right family, go to the right schools and make the right friends. Then you bounce around job to job to see if you can handle executive tasks and make a name for yourself. Eventually you move up. It's called being a part of the upper class. You don't get those opportunities from answering internet job postings.

You need to learn about politics.

 

[PSL]

erj-145mech

I thought Don Carty has moved on ...

Maybe my information is faulty but I thought the CEO of American Airlines is Gerald Arpey (sp?).

Most of the pilots that I know speak very highly of Mr. Arpey. Having watched the Senate Hearings with Mr. Kelleher, Mr. Arpey, and the gentleman from the DFW Airport Authority; I was most impressed with AA's boss. Having been in this industry long enough to remember Mr. Crandall's management reign, I turned off the television hoping my AA pilot friends were working for a smart guy.

Time will tell, as I understand Mr. Arpey's salary increased by a significant % while his pilot group was still underwriting AA's amazing financial turn around. This has the makings of creating a very bitter pilot group as they enter Seciton 6.

As far as your comments justifying unrestricted CEO (Management) pay in spite of the pay levels received by the workers ... I can only attribute this position to ignorance, arrogance or a little of both.

I will be happy to debate the merits of equitable compensation, but you might want to review the last 30 years of airline labor v management history before we get started.

 

[erj-145mech]

Simma down there Sparky...

First off, this is a board for Major Airline pilots. Take your snot nose Cessna experience over to the Private pilot board.

Next, don't come in here lecturing us about going somewhere else. This profession isn't like being a doctor or lawyer where you can just pick up and go down the street to the next office; and probably get a raise from doing it. If a pilot leaves a major airline, he starts at the bottom of whatever airline he goes to. So it behooves him to stick with the one he's got and fight to make it better for himself and his fellow pilots.

You carte blanche business types have no clue as to how the airline industry operates on a people level.

Here is the title to this section of a public board:

Flight Operations
Information in regards to flight operations.

Where does it say "Pilots"? What precisely does having contol over the size of the aircraft have to do with making management decisions? I manage an annual budget of $564M annually for the maintenance of 205 aircraft. I started my career as a mechanic for a Cessna dealership and worked my way to my present position. I previously held a position as a supervisor for Continental Airlines, so I have an idea of what it takes. In the airline industry, people are an expendable commodity, they come and they go. When one person leaves, there are several ready to take his place, and at a lower salary too. Good for business.

So now you can go back to practicing your cabin announcements, and reminding the pax to keep their seatbelts fastened and enjoy the ride.

 

[Coool Hand Luke]

...an annual budget of $564M annually for the maintenance of 205 aircraft.

$2.75M per year per aicraft on MX?