Mesaba VS. Pinnacle

[Dirty Sanchez]

I don't know anybody at Mesaba that would even think about going to 9E. Most want to stay as far as possible from the red tail fleet. Plus 9E has plenty of 300 hour wonders to fill their classes.

 

[EL10]

9E did in fact offer pref interviews. Hardly any took it. This was done immediately while the on going discussion about the 21G and its applicability.

 

[kmox29]

9E did in fact offer pref interviews. Hardly any took it. This was done immediately while the on going discussion about the 21G and its applicability.

What's amazing is that Pinnacle offered a bunch of NWA furloughs preferential hiring to help them out. How did the pilots at NWA repay Pinnacle...by allowing Compass.

 

[redflyer65]

The pref hiring at PCL was a huge black eye for our MEC. They jumped through numerous hoops to get a specific number of slots while constantly working with XJ MEC. There was a certain number of XJ pilots that commited to the interview date and time. (Not sure of the exact number, something like 5-10). Absolutely NONE of them showed. Not a phone call or anything, and that was that.

So yes, there was pref interview given. It really doesn't matter to me, I just don't like it when people quote things as fact when in reality they aren't.

 

[SEVEN]

Only AWAC and XJET formally offered prefferential interviews to furloughed XJ guys back in the winter/spring. 9E did not (they were not in my future plans for employment). Just an oberservation.

You're right. Per our MEC, only Express Jet and Air Wisconsin offered furloughed Mesaba guys preferential interviews/hiring. Just because a few Xj pilots had interviews with 9E doesn't mean that's preferential. If Pinnacle was going to give us preferential interviews, our union would have been notified. The bottom line, there is a bitter rivalery between the companies that stems back many years. Most of them hate us, and most of us dislike them. It's like Michigan and State. That's the simple truth. As long as the bitter whipsawing continues (compliments if Doug at NWA) a peace treaty between the 2 Airlink Red tails is highly unlikely. Tell me where I'm wrong.

 

[wmudriver]

Its a fact that we weren't offered pref. interviews. Ask the 226 that were furloughed.

Again, even if there were, 9E wasn't in my future plans...neither were AWAC and XJET. Its kinda like in sports, if a guy gets knocked down, offer him a hand to get back up. Wether he takes it or not, its up to him.

 

[redflyer65]

The pref interviews were real. The events unfolded as I stated. Don't believe me?Call Wychor for yourselves. The guys/girls that were set up for interviews were complete no-shows. It was embarrassing even for our pilot group.

 

[Tank Commander]

If I were furloughed from xj the last place in the world I would go looking for a job is 9e. Spank me once shame on you, twice, you know the deal. When the pic time is done I'm gone! It's up, or over to 135.

 

[gnx99]

Hmmm, I'm furloughed from Mesaba, and I never heard a word about hiring at Pinnacle.

 

[redflyer65]

It may be apples and oranges. It was more than a few years ago. I think it unfortunately laid the groundwork for no pref interview this time around (with the current round of XJ furloughs). If you guys are talking within the past year, then my bad, it was further back than that. I continue to wish XJ pilots all the best and stand amazed at what a screwed up management team can do to a well run airline. Absolutely amazing.

 

[Terry Hunter]

... It's like Michigan and State. That's the simple truth. As long as the bitter whipsawing continues (compliments if Doug at NWA) a peace treaty between the 2 Airlink Red tails is highly unlikely. Tell me where I'm wrong.

And in the end, we all are Tigers fans then. Let's root together on the common denominator.

 

[DoinTime]

Its a fact that we weren't offered pref. interviews. Ask the 226 that were furloughed.

Again, even if there were, 9E wasn't in my future plans...neither were AWAC and XJET. Its kinda like in sports, if a guy gets knocked down, offer him a hand to get back up. Wether he takes it or not, its up to him.

The idea behind a "preferential" interveiw is that those affected would get an opportunity they normally wouldn't have much of a chance for. Every last furloughed Mesaba pilot could have a interview at PCL if they wanted one. It has been this way for years.

PCL doesn't hire low time pilots because they want to. They hire them because they need to.

 

[Detroitpilot22]

GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My FO Salary is not doing well in buying these playoff tickets

 

[easydoesit]

Why Don't We All Stick Together, Quit Bickering About The Past, And Realize We Need To Stick Together Here If Anything Is Ever Going To Change. Which It Will Never As Long As You Fly For A Red Tail...

 

[Rook]

Hmmm, I'm furloughed from Mesaba, and I never heard a word about hiring at Pinnacle.

Did you apply? I just finished a furloughed XJer's IOE.

 

[SEVEN]

And in the end, we all are Tigers fans then. Let's root together on the common denominator.

Good point. GO TIGERS!

 

[WMUSIGPI]

Did you apply? I just finished a furloughed XJer's IOE.

Most of us wanted noting else to do with the Northwest family after this bs started. Nothing against the PCL pilots, NWA land is just not a nice place.

 

[RedTailSwinger]

Mesaba can operate up to 36 76 seaters without giving up 1/2 Capt and 1/2 FO seats. Pinnacle would have to give up the seats to get any of these jets.

The choice is quite simple. Either Mesaba and/or Pinnacle give up super seniority rights to NWA pilots for these jets in the event of a flowback, or the jets simply go to Compass where mainline furloughees have rights to 100% of the seats in the event of future furloughs.

Who said anything about super seniority? If an NWA pilot occupies a seat in one of these CRJ-900s, there is nothing in the NWA contract that says they get super seniority. I would imagine they would be the most junior.

What will happen to the seniority of Compass pilots if it gets sold to another airline? I don't think the NWA contract has a provision for this either, they just get to keep their seats.

All of this is irrelevant if nwa recalls quickly. Of course, NWA has 125ish DC-9s being replaced by RJs. So who knows.