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Gulfstream Airlines Plane Lands With Flat Tire

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Does he have to pay an extra 10K for real emergency training?










Sorry.. had to :)
 
The_Russian said:
And you think that it is better to accept a job at more than 50% sub par wage than to pay money as PART OF YOUR PRIMARY TRAINING COST and recieve the highest pay industry wide for your type aircraft? Are you on crazy pills? Good luck upgrading in 15 years.

BTW I can make up to 60K a year as a Captain if I worked my butt off. 40K taking it easy. Kinda the same as your aircraft pay.

60K- 8-10 days off
40K- 15 days off ( and I can get that and more every month)

My total training cost is less than 50K. That includes Private-CFII and GTA program. My degree will cost around 20K (still workin on it)

So what are your numbers? Let me guess.....120K to Riddle, another 20K to finish flight training where Riddle left off, and a five year FO job only to be traded to the lowest bidder later. Oops, sorry! Or maybe you just spent 80K at DCI or FSI and think you know it all now! Which is exactly how you act!

Which major does your daddy work for?

BTW, FO in a 121 operation is NOT part of PRIMARY FLIGHT TRAINING. There are jobs out there that pay you to perform those duties. There are no jobs that pay someone to build cross country time or get a certificate. That is why it's called PRIMARY training....of which 121 flying is not.

And before you ask, I can get it up just fine, I work 1/2 as much as you and make twice as much. And I work for a regional.
 
Now I see why the surveys that list flight instructor pay were so inflated..... At say 50K per Gulfstream instructor... er .. "captain"...that's a big bump to the typical 15K instructor...
 
More comments spoken proudly by my fellow members at the After School Airline....

I can think of several of our fellow pilots (capts & f/os) that are all former members of "The Stream," should ASA not have hired them as well?

Ignorance is bliss...
 
mckpickle said:
And before you ask, I can get it up just fine, I work 1/2 as much as you and make twice as much. And I work for a regional.

When ExpressJet goes tango uniform, you will work 100% less, although unemployment pays better than GIA.
 
More comments spoken proudly by my fellow members at the After School Airline....

I can think of several of our fellow pilots (capts & f/os) that are all former members of "The Stream," should ASA not have hired them as well?

Ignorance is bliss...

Nor Cal.........

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!?!?!?!

OK!!!!

Snake!
 
GO AROUND said:
Its was an old ASA aircraft. It was already worn out when they got it. What else do you expect?

Yep N283AS... Got a few hours in that one. Seemed like that had very little airflow in the cockpit with a post mod, mod of it's electrical system. No wait, that was all of them..
 
I flew on Gulfstream a few weeks ago from Tampa to Key West on a 1900. I was impressed. From the gate agents to the flight crew, to the flight itself, it was very smooth and professional. I have flown on a few so-called "real" regionals, that I can safely say, were not as professionally operated.

And no, I do not work, or have ever worked for Gulfstream.

AK
 
Flat tires on the EMB-120 aren't always obvious. I've seen a tire that looked just fine turn out to be flat. Looks great until bags and pax get loaded then the added weight shows it to be flat. You can land and taxi in with a flat tire and not realize it until you get off the airplane to get the release.

While I don't like GIA much I don't fault the PFT FO for missing the flat.
 
I'm not going to get involved in the whole "PFT Sucks, GIA sucks, Your Daddy sucks" debate.

However For the record;

I flew with a number of ex Gulfstream guys when I was at ASA.

None of them had problems and one of them was among the very best FO's I ever flew with. All of them are now ASA Capt's or at majors.
 
Flat tires on the EMB-120 aren't always obvious. I've seen a tire that looked just fine turn out to be flat. Looks great until bags and pax get loaded then the added weight shows it to be flat. You can land and taxi in with a flat tire and not realize it until you get off the airplane to get the release.

While I don't like GIA much I don't fault the PFT FO for missing the flat.


When viewing a flat tire on a multi-tire strut (ie. two tires together on one wheel assembly) the flat tire looks normal and the good tire looks flat. The reason is the good tire is now supporting all the weight and the flat tire is not. Since the flat tire bears no weight it rounds out and looks normal. When doing a preflight if you see a "flat" tire call maintenance and tell them to replace the other one.
 
I flew on Gulfstream a few weeks ago from Tampa to Key West on a 1900. I was impressed. From the gate agents to the flight crew, to the flight itself, it was very smooth and professional. I have flown on a few so-called "real" regionals, that I can safely say, were not as professionally operated.

And no, I do not work, or have ever worked for Gulfstream.

AK

Thanks AK!
 
When doing a preflight if you see a "flat" tire call maintenance and tell them to replace the other one.

No shlt Sherlock!

Now explain how to detect the flat tires that don't look flat.

I'm just glad you clued me in on calling MX if I see a flat tire. Never would have figured that out on my own.
 
This made me giggle. I can just imagine the reaction if I "told" MX which wheel assembly to replace.

When he goes to upgrade class hopefully they'll explain how to write up an airplace.

HINT: You don't diagnose the problem. In this case the writeup would be "left inboard tire appears low."
 

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