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If you call in sick and then go on your honeymoon.

If you get oil on your shirt the first day and laugh about it and say dang this has to last until day four.

You have a full wine cellar and a fully stocked mini bar at home.

You only remember the days you were broke in maintenance.

If you fly a citation and have been PIC for 5 years and still don't meet SWA minimums of a 1000 PIC.

If you have been found passed out in a stock locker.

If you are still looking for you fuel savings bonus.

If you get tired of coming up with names for your tips on your expense report.

If you have steamed off a stamp to send in your expense report and charged FLOPS for it.

If your bar tab is larger than your meal tab.

If you have ever turned on the EMERG pressurization while the PIC is taking a whiz.

If you have worked out in the gym at Jet in TEB more than your home gym.

If you have ever considered opening the door naked when the maid knocks at 0700. Wait that must have been a dream we are flying by then.

If you refer to your flying partner as your "road wife".

If you can only add a "domestic partner" on your insurance but not you Fiance.

If you count per diem as income.

This is a great topic keep it going guy and girls. Remember "Don't hate the player hate the game".
 
MAYBE A FLOPS PILOT IF THE COMPANY YOU WORK FOR IS CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




FAA Grounds Company That Hired Flight Crew In Teterboro Crash

POSTED: 9:10 am EST March 4, 2005
UPDATED: 1:33 pm EST March 4, 2005

NEWARK, N.J. -- The Federal Aviation Administration has grounded the company that hired the flight crew for the corporate jet that crashed last month while attempting to take off from Teterboro Airport, and claims it may be unqualified to fly passengers.

The company, Platinum Jet Management, has also refused to fully comply with an FAA subpoena for documents, withholding training records, duty time records and pay records for pilots and mechanics, according to court papers the agency filed late Wednesday.

The court documents were disclosed Thursday after a federal judge in Newark ordered Platinum Jet to attend a hearing Monday and explain why it should not submit the documents.

It is unusual for a carrier to balk at producing such records, said FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown.

A key issue in FAA decision is a permit, known as a Part 135 certificate, required to be held by charter operators. The agency maintains that Platinum Jet does not have such a certificate.

A lawyer for Platinum Jet, of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said the company was working with another company, Darby Aviation, known as AlphaJet, that has a Part 135 certificate.

"They were operating on another 135, which happens all the time, including on major air carriers," said the lawyer, Mike Moulis. "For those guys to represent to you that that is somehow illegal, they need to go back to aviation school 101."

He maintained that Platinum Jet does not need to release the records sought by the FAA. According to a filing by an FAA lawyer, Moulis also said the crew and mechanics were independent contractors and not covered by the subpoena.

A woman answering the phone at Alphajet, of Muscle Shoals, Ala., said no one was immediately available to speak with a reporter.

The cause of the Feb. 2 crash of the plane carrying eight passengers and three crew members is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board. The FAA is also involved to determine if any action needs to be taken before the NTSB investigation is completed, Brown said.

The pilot, John Kimberling, has said that when he tried to lift the nose of the aircraft, the controls appeared to jam and the plane would not respond, forcing him to make a split-second decision to abort takeoff.

No one was killed in the crash, but 20 people were injured, including a motorist in a car struck by the Bombardier Canadair Challenger CL-600 aircraft as it crossed Route 46. The aircraft then slammed into a warehouse.

The motorist, James Dinnall, 66, of Paterson, suffered head injuries and remained in serious condition Thursday at Hackensack University Medical Center, hospital spokeswoman Nancy Radwin said.
© 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
 
FISHINGOR said:
MAYBE A FLOPS PILOT IF THE COMPANY YOU WORK FOR IS CORRUPT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




FAA Grounds Company That Hired Flight Crew In Teterboro Crash

POSTED: 9:10 am EST March 4, 2005
UPDATED: 1:33 pm EST March 4, 2005

NEWARK, N.J. -- The Federal Aviation Administration has grounded the company that hired the flight crew for the corporate jet that crashed last month while attempting to take off from Teterboro Airport, and claims it may be unqualified to fly passengers.

The company, Platinum Jet Management, has also refused to fully comply with an FAA subpoena for documents, withholding training records, duty time records and pay records for pilots and mechanics, according to court papers the agency filed late Wednesday.

The court documents were disclosed Thursday after a federal judge in Newark ordered Platinum Jet to attend a hearing Monday and explain why it should not submit the documents.

It is unusual for a carrier to balk at producing such records, said FAA spokeswoman Laura Brown.

A key issue in FAA decision is a permit, known as a Part 135 certificate, required to be held by charter operators. The agency maintains that Platinum Jet does not have such a certificate.

A lawyer for Platinum Jet, of Fort Lauderdale, Fla., said the company was working with another company, Darby Aviation, known as AlphaJet, that has a Part 135 certificate.

"They were operating on another 135, which happens all the time, including on major air carriers," said the lawyer, Mike Moulis. "For those guys to represent to you that that is somehow illegal, they need to go back to aviation school 101."

He maintained that Platinum Jet does not need to release the records sought by the FAA. According to a filing by an FAA lawyer, Moulis also said the crew and mechanics were independent contractors and not covered by the subpoena.

A woman answering the phone at Alphajet, of Muscle Shoals, Ala., said no one was immediately available to speak with a reporter.

The cause of the Feb. 2 crash of the plane carrying eight passengers and three crew members is under investigation by the National Transportation Safety Board. The FAA is also involved to determine if any action needs to be taken before the NTSB investigation is completed, Brown said.

The pilot, John Kimberling, has said that when he tried to lift the nose of the aircraft, the controls appeared to jam and the plane would not respond, forcing him to make a split-second decision to abort takeoff.

No one was killed in the crash, but 20 people were injured, including a motorist in a car struck by the Bombardier Canadair Challenger CL-600 aircraft as it crossed Route 46. The aircraft then slammed into a warehouse.

The motorist, James Dinnall, 66, of Paterson, suffered head injuries and remained in serious condition Thursday at Hackensack University Medical Center, hospital spokeswoman Nancy Radwin said.
© 2005 by The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

Maybe I'm missing something, but what is the direct link with Flight Options here?
 
You might be a FLOPS Pilot if:

Being docked a day's per diem (due to being standby at home on day 1) throws your monthly budget out of whack (primarily FOs).

Your catered "breakfast" lately consists of sandwiches, chicken salads, or seafood (crew lunches being delivered instead of breakfasts for 8:00 a.m. departure).
 
You may be a flightops pilot if....

You tell the bar tender you work for netjets......

You reach into your back pocket for a hotel key when you get to the front door of your house......

Your headset bag is full of mini's from the stock locker.....

You listen to the weekly message to find out if you can afford to buy groceries this week.......

You wear your sweater no matter how gay it looks, just so you can wear the same white shirt all week long.......

You get another 0430 wake up call because a beechjet broke, again.....

The tower has no clue what you are talking about when you ask for directions to the GA ramp for fuel......

You change CEO's at least once a year......

You show up at the fbo after a 3hr repo only to find another crew there for the same trip, and they repoed 3.5hrs....

You are on your 3rd blackberry.....

You want to kill the next person who says "Are you trying to be a commercial pilot?"....

Your wife can't remember what kind of plane you fly.....

You tell everyone you are a limo driver so you don't have to do any explaining...

When waiting for the hotel shuttle out front you've been tempted to steal the car of the powder blue polo shirt, yellow sweater vest, Tommy Bahama hat wearing dueshbag when he hands you the keys and says.."Red Beamer...there's a 5 in it for you if you are quick.".......

You HAVE stolen his bags when the same azzhole drops them in front of you and says "room 615, executive floor"........

When your wife tells her co-workers "My husband is a pilot". And they ask her "Why do you work then?" and she tells them "because my husband is a pilot"......

Your relatives keep asking "when are you gonna get 'JETS' ?"......

You know the routing for teb-pbi by heart, aka the H.H.....

You've ordered pizza from the air and put it on the multi-service card...

You're familiar with the words "please hold, you're number 3"......

You have your own room at the Holiday Inn Wicliffe...

You carry at least 5 up-to-date resumes with you on the road...

You are a member of AirAPPS, Climbto350 AND planejobs.com....
 
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you might be a FLOPS pilot if

the phrase "HELP IS ON THE WAY" causes you to laugh and cry at the same time.

ASAP
 
Tommy Boy said:
When waiting for the hotel shuttle out front you've been tempted to steal the car of the powder blue polo shirt, yellow sweater vest, Tommy Bahama hat wearing dueshbag when he hands you the keys and says.."Red Beamer...there's a 5 in it for you if you are quick.".......

Heard an Pilot tell a story like that one time, he was a new hire at the old Piedmont Airlines making all of $12K/yr. He commutes home to Detroit and is waiting at the curb for his wife to pick him up. Up zooms this brand new Caddy and comes to a halt right next to him. The guy jumps out and heads for the trunk, his wife starts to get out. Being a gentleman the pilot holds the car door open for her. The guys comes around the car dragging his bags, slaps a $20 bill in the pilots hand and says to "park it in the back row of the daily lot and leave the key under the mat", then runs into the terminal.
So there he stands with $20 and keys to a brand new Caddy in his hand. Talk about temptation! So he thinks, "what the heck, why not park the thing" so he gets in the car. About that time his wife pulls up and sees him. After some fast explaining he parked the car and they used the money to eat at a resturant, something they rarely got a chance to do on first year pay.
 
You guys are killing me. As a former corporate pilot who interviewed at FLOPS in 1999, I get about 90% of it . . . . that's some funny shibbit.
 
And as a former FLOPS pilot . . .

If you are still working there, you don't know whether to laugh or cry.

Yes it is funny to read, but I catch myself reading through the list going "yep, yep, yep, and that one too, yep, yep, yep."

It is a form of comedy to laugh at anothers misery, right?

My year at my new job is April 12. If you know me, send me a PM so I can give you a recommendation and get you out of there ASAP (notice the subtle hint I dropped there?)!

Best of luck guys,

Jetsi
 
OOOOH And I forgot

You know all the rooms at the hotels that have had the TV's changed to get free movies and porn.

I hope that isn't a double post. Room 106 at the Hilton Houston Hobby is one right off the top of my head. I know there are numerous rooms at the Crown in PBI that have been made FLOPS friendly.

Say, now there is an idea for a new thread. Post all rooms with good TV.

Good luck guys,

Jetsi
 

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