YIP or ELP for a base???

[kamikaize]

I'm considering taking a job with ameristar and was wondering which base would be the best. Now before all you guys start bashing ameristar im fully aware of the crappy schedule and time away from home. I've flown on demand for a few years and know how hectic it gets and the quality of the 135 planes. which one allows more nights home when on your 10 day schedule,cost of living, and quality of life for a single 26yr old.

 

[Dizel8]

Since I have lived in YIP, I would go for ELP. Nice weather, Juarez, pretty girls, Juarez, outdoor activities etc..............

 

[nosewheel]

DONT PIC YIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Once you take YIP as a base it will stick with you the REST OF YOUR LIFE !!!! YOU CANT GET AWAY AND IT WILL HAUNT YOU FOREVER!!!!. Trust me Ive been based there on and off for over 20 years and CANT GET AWAY!!!! For you own sake Take ELP !!!!!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

YIP is not that bad, but go for ELP

I have been based in YIP twice and didn't think it was that bad, but there is snow.

It is true, there is a funnel cloud that sucks you in to the freight side of the ramp that once you get pulled in, it is hard to pull yourself back out.

I would say it depends on where you are from, what type of weather and part of the country you prefer.

Good luck

 

[Tim47SIP]

Yip????

I spent a year there one week. It sucked the whole time. ELP is hot and alot of rocks, but it is still better than YIP.

 

[tired_pilot]

ELP by a hair

I dont know...YIP had some of the nastiest weather. ELP is kinda blah....might be easier to jump on SWA out of ELP, then NWA out of DTW?? Something to think about...commutability??

 

[WMUSIGPI]

elp is warm, really warm. the girls are generally cuter there too though many don't speak english.
yip isn't the greatest part of metro detroit but it isn't too expensive there compared to most of the cities around it either. there is more to do around the detroit area without having to cross a border (though canada is only about a 35 minute drive)
Personally I'd go to yip between those 2 choices though for metro detroit only city airport is lower on the list for aiports to work out of, (in fact I wouldn't take a job working at city airport)

 

[jobear]

I hear the companies are thinking of moving up to MQT(old Sawyer) just so the rest of you freight guys can freeze to death and it's alot like Ancorage. Go to ELP as fast as you can it don't snow there.

Jobear
Ragin Cajun to far North to do anyone any good!

 

[Jeff Helgeson]

A good point

I dont know...YIP had some of the nastiest weather. ELP is kinda blah....might be easier to jump on SWA out of ELP, then NWA out of DTW?? Something to think about...commutability??

After finishing a trip out of YIP, you may have to get to DTW to grab a flight home. That is tough, but you will be flying 5 days a week, most likely, and that will make it hard enough to commute, anyway.

 

[CF34-3B1]

There are some astonishingly beautiful women in ELP, and the Mexican food is about 11,000 times better than what you can find in MI. (Go to Forti's and get the pastel de tres leches)

 

[wmudriver]

Been based in both recently

Here is my $.02

Cost of living=ELP
Chicks who speak english and don't have 3 kids=YIP
Weather=ELP
QOL=toss up depending on what you like doing

 

[JimNtexas]

ELP doesn't have snow, but there is decent sking just a couple of hours away in New Mexico.

No income tax in Texas (assuming you have income to pay taxes).

 

[:-)]

If you choose Juarez, you'll never have to chance running into PILOTYIP. That should make the choice easy.

Calvin























Just kidding PILOTYIP.

 

[Vector4fun]

I spent over 10 years in ELP. A big Ditto on the Mexican Food at Forti's!!


Ask yourself this:

It's 4:00 am and you've been flying for three straight days. Do you really want to do the ILS with 1800 RVR in snow,


OR, the visual from fifty miles out and step out of the plane wearing a windbreaker?


Just don't hit one of those very dark mountains whilst decending on the visual, and don't land at Biggs Field.


Plus the golf courses are open year 'round. Try Campestre C.C. in Juarez. No carts, caddies only.

 

[bigD]

Mmmm.....Juarez....the happiest place on Earth!

 

[pilotyip]

YIP is fantastic!!!

I have worked in every building on the field, my father was working here when I was born, my son works at YIP, it is a family thing. I love it, if you fly out of YIP you will be a great inst pilot or you will be unemployed, you will learn the meaning of a clean airplane first hand, You will log more night time, it is darker here longer, you will be connected to the Spirit hiring pipeline, Two major colleges within bicycling distance of the ramp. Plus you get to see all those beautifull warbirds flying around in the summer. Real pilots accept the challenge of the YIP demanding environment, others are wimps. And if you fly out of YIP for Ameristar you will still spend alot of time in ELP, but it will be on some else's dime.

 

[nosewheel]

Pilot Yip.. Your Sick I have also worked for every scumbag on that feild and still do. Thats the sad part... I cant get away !! At least I dont have to live there anymore.

 

[pilotyip]

Elephants grave yard

All YIP pilots seem to return here, I have tagged a bunch Transcon C-46 days, TIA, TA, Zipper, and finally USA Jet

 

[Captain X]

I spent a year there one week. It sucked the whole time. ELP is hot and alot of rocks, but it is still better than YIP.

Did we ever fly together?

 

[hyperboy]

Elp

I concur with the ELP idea. I was there for awhile we had a convair over at superior. You guys fly a butt load but there is UTEP, skiing (as mentioned), you can save money and plenty of freght dogs to hang with. For me much better than YIP. Good luck DUDE!

 

[rumpletumbler]

Fajita's, Magarita's, Senorita's........is there a pattern developing here?

 

[cj610]

If single...Elp/if married...does it matter?

ELP

I had these friends who said they liked to hang out at some watering hole called the Lamplighter?...they also told me Rods and Wheels was good too.

cj610

 

[wmudriver]

I know I already piped in about this but each has its plus and minus'. Born and raised in MI, did my flight training there and I miss it. Michigan's summers are the best as there is so much to do recreation wise. Its a different type of flying up there like Pilotyip said as the weather is a bit more challenging than the standard ELP clear skys. But with college loans still chasing me, the low cost of living in ELP has certainly helped the pocket books. Its a nice change of life living down here as its laid back, nice weather all the time and just something different than the midwest i've grown up in.

 

[pilotshan]

delta whiskey

D-You have way too much time on your hands! Don't you work???


P.S. I vote YIP. I'm not into the senioritas and I like a little weather now and then. Keeps things interesting.

 

[wmudriver]

sierra charlie

2 of the big 3 automakers are shutdown for retooling now so its kinda slow so yes I have lots of time on my hands.

BTW A$$clown, We may not have the nice beaches of SJU but there is still plenty of sand around the KELP...don't sell us short.

 

[Dizel8]

All you need is one of those kiddie garden pools and a bucket of beer.

 

[pilotshan]

Delta W.

2 of the big 3 automakers are shutdown for retooling now so its kinda slow so yes I have lots of time on my hands.

BTW A$$clown, We may not have the nice beaches of SJU but there is still plenty of sand around the KELP...don't sell us short.

It's called a desert. Look into it...

 

[Jump Pilot]

It does snow in El Paso.

Remember the Sun Bowl about 10 years ago?

 

[Wang Chung]

There are some astonishingly beautiful women in ELP

THAT is a bold statement. Where the hell were they when I was there?? I spent a little time "based" in ELP and I wasn't too impressed. Seemed like a generally boring and unsophisticated place. The weather was a no-brainer, and that was definitely a nice change from the midwest base.

YIP? Don't know much about being based there - the only thing I remember about YIP is clearing customs in the middle of the night and occasionally catching a ride to the local Denny's in the Jet Center crew van.

 

[WMUSIGPI]

D-You have way too much time on your hands! Don't you work???


P.S. I vote YIP. I'm not into the senioritas and I like a little weather now and then. Keeps things interesting.

Hey Shan, didn't you leave Michigan for Eagle in San Juan? Or are you at O'hare?