XLS+ at Netjets and Citationshares - Questions

[johnsonrod]

I realize the economy is terrible and flying is down considerably, but I have a few questions related to the XLS+ at Netjets and Citationshares:


1. Do you guys have many XLS+ aircraft yet? How many at each? How big is the total order for the XLS+ at each?

2. Are your XLS+ pilots cross-qualified in that and the XL/XLS or are they flown separately due to the flight deck differences?

3. Will the XLS+ eventually replace all existing XL/XLS aircraft in your fleet (is that the long-range plan once the economy rebounds)?

4. How do pilots like flying the XLS+? How does it compare to the original XL/XLS for those who have flown both? I know the XLS+ has the newer Pro Line 21 system which I hear is very nice...

 

[Fozzy]

#1. No.
I will get to the rest when that becomes a yes. Just don't hold your breath.

 

[NJA bound]

The Encore+ is a pretty sweet avionics setup

 

[ITFL]

I realize the economy is terrible and flying is down considerably, but I have a few questions related to the XLS+ at Netjets and Citationshares:


1. Do you guys have many XLS+ aircraft yet? How many at each? How big is the total order for the XLS+ at each?

2. Are your XLS+ pilots cross-qualified in that and the XL/XLS or are they flown separately due to the flight deck differences?

3. Will the XLS+ eventually replace all existing XL/XLS aircraft in your fleet (is that the long-range plan once the economy rebounds)?

4. How do pilots like flying the XLS+? How does it compare to the original XL/XLS for those who have flown both? I know the XLS+ has the newer Pro Line 21 system which I hear is very nice...

Who knows, look for press releases that will answer your questions right around NBAA. Management is not talking, draw you own conclusions!

P.S. Flying the XLS sucks

 

[o2bflyn]

Who knows, look for press releases that will answer your questions right around NBAA. Management is not talking, draw you own conclusions!

P.S. Flying the XLS sucks

what's wrong with it.....seems to fly great for me.

 

[flagshipper]

Johnson what is your deal with new fleet types and related info? Seems every other week you are posting about when is such and such fractional getting such and such type of jet and what do you think of the jet that nobody even has? Get a life. Most of us at fracs are worried about our jobs and could care less what we fly.

 

[johnsonrod]

Johnson what is your deal with new fleet types and related info? Seems every other week you are posting about when is such and such fractional getting such and such type of jet and what do you think of the jet that nobody even has? Get a life. Most of us at fracs are worried about our jobs and could care less what we fly.

Dude,

Last time I checked this was an information board and not a dating site. Quit whining. We're all stressed about the economy and its impact on our jobs. Too bad you are jaded about flying - I am sure there are some great Government desk jobs opening up under Obama (new IRS tax collectors).

Perhaps you could GET A LIFE and not respond to my posts... Thanks to everyone else for contributing.

 

[RNObased]

Dude,

Last time I checked this was an information board and not a dating site. Quit whining. We're all stressed about the economy and its impact on our jobs. Too bad you are jaded about flying - I am sure there are some great Government desk jobs opening up under Obama (new IRS tax collectors).

Perhaps you could GET A LIFE and not respond to my posts... Thanks to everyone else for contributing.

I'm with Flagshipper on this one. You are on these boards asking questions that people who actually fly for the fractionals you ask about, don't care about. Who, gives a rat's ass about what replaces what, and how many we have. Do you think that line pilots have that information or if they did do they care. Also think, did it dawn on you that those numbers are a moving target??

I mean honestly, do you think a line pilots knows what the "long term plan is for the XL/XLS once the ecomony rebounds"?? Hell, do you think mangement even knows??

Lastly if you had just a little ambition, you could probably get some of this info from the FAA's website.

 

[BuckMurdock1]

I'm with Flagshipper on this one. You are on these boards asking questions that people who actually fly for the fractionals you ask about, don't care about. Who, gives a rat's ass about what replaces what, and how many we have. Do you think that line pilots have that information or if they did do they care. Also think, did it dawn on you that those numbers are a moving target??

I mean honestly, do you think a line pilots knows what the "long term plan is for the XL/XLS once the ecomony rebounds"?? Hell, do you think mangement even knows??

Lastly if you had just a little ambition, you could probably get some of this info from the FAA's website.

What he and flagshipper said. I'm very junior and on the XL/XLS; I could give a rats *ss about the XLS+, Hawker 'spruce goose' 4000, or any other damned bird. I'm looking at possibly/probably getting furloughed very soon. If you figure a way for me to feed my family during furlough with a nice shiny photo of an XLS+ in 'flying' magazine...please let me know.

 

[johnsonrod]

You bad attitudes are just sad...

RNO, Buck and Flagship,

Wow - just listen to this crying.... You sound like my kids. Hey, don't blame me for your career choices. You could have gone to Law School or into IT management. Clearly you are jaded and upset about Netjets and its recent challenges. That ain't my fault so don't pi$$ in my cornflakes because you are mad.

I really don't care what you guys think. I am a professional pilot just like you guys and I have questions. That is why I use these boards - to answer my questions. You don't have to answer - PERIOD. I happen to know pilots who really love what they do and they love the different airplanes they fly. You don't. Big deal. Don't answer my questions if you don't care. In fact, please put me on your ignore list so that I don't have to hear your incredibly lame, sad stories.

I do want to thank those pilots who still enjoy what they do and don't mind answering questions. At one point I had considered working for Netjets (I now have roughly 8,500 hours with 5,000+ jet PIC). It's bad apples like these jokers who make me reconsider. I don't want to become as jaded and selfish as these jackholes. I still love what I do and I enthusiastically enjoy aviation.

So, in conclusion, don't answer questions if you don't have something to contribute. Just ignore the question. Don't waste everyone's time with another lame, pointless response. Instead, use that same time to look at the job boards online. There are plenty of airport shuttle services hiring. When you pick me up in the shuttle van, I'll be generous and tell you all about my flying if you are interested. I'll even load the baggage myself.