XJT FA jumpseat now available to offline pilots

[TNPILOT]

This is of course in addition to the cockpit jumpseat with CASS approval. Welcome aboard.

 

[flyboy06]

In keeping with ExpressJet’s position of being a leader in the regional airline industry, effective immediately ExpressJet Airlines will now offer the FA jumpseat to all OAL pilots in accordance with the following hierarchy:


· Assigned FA if required to have two flight attendants on board
· Inflight personnel on Company business during an oversell situation
· XJT FA on personal travel
· Flight attendant from major carrier for which flight is being operated traveling on personal travel – e.g. Continental/Continental Micronesia flight attendant on flight operated as Continental Express; United flight attendant on flight operated as United Express.
· FA (with reciprocal FA jumpseat agreement in place)
· Other Continental Express/Connection (on flight operated as Continental Express) or United Express (on flight operated as United Express) flight attendant with authorized jumpseat privileges on ExpressJet
· Any FA from another airline with authorized jumpseat privileges on ExpressJet
· XJT pilots
· XJT dispatchers/mechanics
· Pilot from a major carrier for which flight is being operated traveling on personal travel – e.g. Continental/Continental Micronesia pilot on flight operated as Continental Express;
· United pilot on flight operated as United Express
· OAL pilots


This shift in policy reaffirms ExpressJet’s position as an industry leader, and we encourage all carriers to follow our lead and open up their flight attendant jumpseat to commuting pilots.

At present, Jet Blue is the only other carrier that will allow commuting pilots access to their FA jumpseat.

This new policy will be reflected in a forthcoming FOM revision which is at the printer now and should be distributed no later than January 15.

 

[Stifler's Mom]

Nice job.

 

[Snaab]

Nice! You guys rock. I commute each week on XJT and always have a positive experience. Hopefully others follow.

 

[Minimaniac]

Just a question...

If I were to jumpseat on the 145, and I ended up in the F/A jumpseat on a full flight, wouldn't that make me the 51st passenger, which would in turn require 2 flight attendants, the second of which would be required to sit in the jumpseat I was just assigned? I am not trying to bash the new policy. It will make commuting a lot easier for a lot of people. I just am unclear on the legality of it.

 

[Hovernut]

You are not a PAX, you are the Additional Crew Member. That's how JB can carry 155 with 3 FAs & 3 ACMs in the back (and front and back again ) and 2 up front.

Just a question...

If I were to jumpseat on the 145, and I ended up in the F/A jumpseat on a full flight, wouldn't that make me the 51st passenger, which would in turn require 2 flight attendants, the second of which would be required to sit in the jumpseat I was just assigned? I am not trying to bash the new policy. It will make commuting a lot easier for a lot of people. I just am unclear on the legality of it.

 

[jonjuan]

You are not a PAX, you are the Additional Crew Member. That's how JB can carry 155 with 3 FAs & 3 ACMs in the back (and front and back again ) and 2 up front.

So you can't booze it up when jumpseating? Uh oh.....

 

[sleddriver77]

Just a question...

If I were to jumpseat on the 145, and I ended up in the F/A jumpseat on a full flight, wouldn't that make me the 51st passenger, which would in turn require 2 flight attendants, the second of which would be required to sit in the jumpseat I was just assigned?

Only in the eyes of IND FSDO.

 

[steely170]

How about OAL Dispatchers?

 

[DGdaPilot]

Very nice folks. Where in the world do you fit an extra F/A jumpseat on an EMB?

 

[dojetdriver]

Very nice folks. Where in the world do you fit an extra F/A jumpseat on an EMB?

Between the last row of seats and the bulkhead in front of the lav. Slides behind the double seat row. It's a total magic trick to extend/stow it. When it's out, it creates a 5 abreast row of seating in the last row.

 

[RJLoser]

Good deal. It's nice to see progress.

 

[rjacobs]

When it's out, it creates a 5 abreast row of seating in the last row.

News to me. When did we either get 2 JS's in the back or when did our cabin seating become 2+2.

 

[dojetdriver]

News to me. When did we either get 2 JS's in the back or when did our cabin seating become 2+2.

ooooops, meant 4 abreast seating in the back.

Maybe it feels like 5 because some of the width of the people that we haul around.

 

[N813CA]

so can people still go to the lue?

 

[dojetdriver]

so can people still go to the lue?

Well, I'm sure some people will take this off on a tangent.

But the way it usually works, and the way I've done it when I've rode on it.

Depending on the length of the flight, above 10,000 the JS'er gets up, heads to the front and stays out of the FA's way while they do their thing. If the FA says it's cool to sit in their seat, fine. If it's a long flight, and the FA has time to relax, I'll just get up and stand in the galley. When coming back though 10, just head back to the seat.

 

[Brasilia Pup]

Thanks, XJT! Very much appreciated. :beer:

 

[wrigley23]

I ran into a problem with this policy today. Jumpseating on XJT today, a mainline Continental pilot already had the jump, the captain came to the gate just to confirm with the gate agent about the load, like we should all do when full. I asked the capt if I could take the FA jump. The agent said no, and the capt said he would find out. He called the chief pilot and was told only Continental affiliated pilots could use that seat. The capt convinced the Continental guy to take the FA jump so I could get on the cockpit jump. Thanks to the crew I got home but was concerned because no one knew about the before mentioned policy. Should I contact my JS coordinator to inquire. Thanks.

 

[Whydoitry]

We can take any pilot in the FA js as long as there are no authorized FA trying to use it. Actually, we can take any non rev in the FA jump seat but there are a lot of politics involved. Yes, you should contact your js rep about this and get your airline to do the same.

 

[Fishpaw]

We can take any pilot in the FA js as long as there are no authorized FA trying to use it. Actually, we can take any non rev in the FA jump seat but there are a lot of politics involved. Yes, you should contact your js rep about this and get your airline to do the same.

Not the case on our UAX flights. Our ORD chief has said that United told us nobody is allowed to use this seat based on how our contract set up... I'm guessing they just want to collect more non-rev fees from the employees.

 

[atlcrashpad]

Jus put a lap belt in the Loo and you gots yo extra seat... Blue Juice bouyyyyyyyyyy...

 

[Whydoitry]

Not the case on our UAX flights. Our ORD chief has said that United told us nobody is allowed to use this seat based on how our contract set up... I'm guessing they just want to collect more non-rev fees from the employees.

Sorry, you are correct. No one gets to use the FA JS on UAX, let's hope CAL ops wins out after the merger.

 

[B727FA]

Just a question...

If I were to jumpseat on the 145, and I ended up in the F/A jumpseat on a full flight, wouldn't that make me the 51st passenger, which would in turn require 2 flight attendants, the second of which would be required to sit in the jumpseat I was just assigned? I am not trying to bash the new policy. It will make commuting a lot easier for a lot of people. I just am unclear on the legality of it.

FWIW--this has been debated ad naseaum on this site over and over again. The j/s is NOT a revenue seat and therefore it does NOT count on the "pax" load. I'm not jumping on you, Mini, just trying to head off this debate before it starts. Cheers! And thanks, XJT for stepping up their game!

 

[B727FA]

Between the last row of seats and the bulkhead in front of the lav. Slides behind the double seat row. It's a total magic trick to extend/stow it. When it's out, it creates a 5 abreast row of seating in the last row.

Small point of correction--4 abreast seating. 18A (aisle) 18 C/D.

 

[B727FA]

Sorry for the "extra" posts that answered other answers!

 

[Long Time Gone]

I'm slightly confused, and maybe because it's late.

In keeping with ExpressJet’s position of being a leader in the regional airline industry, effective immediately ExpressJet Airlines will now offer the FA jumpseat to all OAL pilots in accordance with the following hierarchy:


· Assigned FA if required to have two flight attendants on board

When would you be required to have 2 FAs on board of a 50 seat RJ? If the aircraft has 51 passenger seats, then the 2nd FA is always required to be on board, regardless of the load. I just don't see the point of "if required to have two flight attendants on board".

Like I said, it's late, so go easy on me if I'm wrong.
:uzi:

 

[dojetdriver]

Double post

 

[dojetdriver]

Small point of correction--4 abreast seating. 18A (aisle) 18 C/D.

Good catch, you made it to post #11. Did you make it to posts #13 and #14 in the thread?

Sorry for the "extra" posts that answered other answers!

Does that mean my booboo was already caught and now you're catching your own?

I'm slightly confused, and maybe because it's late.

When would you be required to have 2 FAs on board of a 50 seat RJ? If the aircraft has 51 passenger seats, then the 2nd FA is always required to be on board, regardless of the load. I just don't see the point of "if required to have two flight attendants on board".

Like I said, it's late, so go easy on me if I'm wrong.
:uzi:

I don't remember EXACTLY when that language was written. But it was after XJT started charter ops. I believe there have been times on the charter sdie, due to "customer request" there have been two FA's.

 

[Long Time Gone]

Thanks.

 

[great cornholio]

Few days ago I tried to get home using XJT. The way the loads looked it was going to come down to being able to sit in the 2nd F/A jumpseat. It was
UAX flight and the capt wasn't sure if UA allowed the 2nd F/A jumpseat to be used so he made some calls. The current UAX policy is that no one can sit in the 2nd F/A jumpseat, but they are currently working with United to get the seat available and hope to get it done soon.