XJT FA jumpseat now available to offline pilots

[atlcrashpad]

Jus put a lap belt in the Loo and you gots yo extra seat... Blue Juice bouyyyyyyyyyy...

 

[Whydoitry]

Not the case on our UAX flights. Our ORD chief has said that United told us nobody is allowed to use this seat based on how our contract set up... I'm guessing they just want to collect more non-rev fees from the employees.

Sorry, you are correct. No one gets to use the FA JS on UAX, let's hope CAL ops wins out after the merger.

 

[B727FA]

Just a question...

If I were to jumpseat on the 145, and I ended up in the F/A jumpseat on a full flight, wouldn't that make me the 51st passenger, which would in turn require 2 flight attendants, the second of which would be required to sit in the jumpseat I was just assigned? I am not trying to bash the new policy. It will make commuting a lot easier for a lot of people. I just am unclear on the legality of it.

FWIW--this has been debated ad naseaum on this site over and over again. The j/s is NOT a revenue seat and therefore it does NOT count on the "pax" load. I'm not jumping on you, Mini, just trying to head off this debate before it starts. Cheers! And thanks, XJT for stepping up their game!

 

[B727FA]

Between the last row of seats and the bulkhead in front of the lav. Slides behind the double seat row. It's a total magic trick to extend/stow it. When it's out, it creates a 5 abreast row of seating in the last row.

Small point of correction--4 abreast seating. 18A (aisle) 18 C/D.

 

[B727FA]

Sorry for the "extra" posts that answered other answers!

 

[Long Time Gone]

I'm slightly confused, and maybe because it's late.

In keeping with ExpressJet’s position of being a leader in the regional airline industry, effective immediately ExpressJet Airlines will now offer the FA jumpseat to all OAL pilots in accordance with the following hierarchy:


· Assigned FA if required to have two flight attendants on board

When would you be required to have 2 FAs on board of a 50 seat RJ? If the aircraft has 51 passenger seats, then the 2nd FA is always required to be on board, regardless of the load. I just don't see the point of "if required to have two flight attendants on board".

Like I said, it's late, so go easy on me if I'm wrong.
:uzi:

 

[dojetdriver]

Double post

 

[dojetdriver]

Small point of correction--4 abreast seating. 18A (aisle) 18 C/D.

Good catch, you made it to post #11. Did you make it to posts #13 and #14 in the thread?

Sorry for the "extra" posts that answered other answers!

Does that mean my booboo was already caught and now you're catching your own?

I'm slightly confused, and maybe because it's late.

When would you be required to have 2 FAs on board of a 50 seat RJ? If the aircraft has 51 passenger seats, then the 2nd FA is always required to be on board, regardless of the load. I just don't see the point of "if required to have two flight attendants on board".

Like I said, it's late, so go easy on me if I'm wrong.
:uzi:

I don't remember EXACTLY when that language was written. But it was after XJT started charter ops. I believe there have been times on the charter sdie, due to "customer request" there have been two FA's.

 

[Long Time Gone]

Thanks.

 

[great cornholio]

Few days ago I tried to get home using XJT. The way the loads looked it was going to come down to being able to sit in the 2nd F/A jumpseat. It was
UAX flight and the capt wasn't sure if UA allowed the 2nd F/A jumpseat to be used so he made some calls. The current UAX policy is that no one can sit in the 2nd F/A jumpseat, but they are currently working with United to get the seat available and hope to get it done soon.

 

[rjacobs]

Few days ago I tried to get home using XJT. The way the loads looked it was going to come down to being able to sit in the 2nd F/A jumpseat. It was
UAX flight and the capt wasn't sure if UA allowed the 2nd F/A jumpseat to be used so he made some calls. The current UAX policy is that no one can sit in the 2nd F/A jumpseat, but they are currently working with United to get the seat available and hope to get it done soon.

COEX=any off line pilot can sit in the aft FA JS
UAX=nobody can sit in the aft FA JS

If you are trying it on COEX and the CA doesnt know you can(i.e. isnt a commuter), its in the FOM now if I am not mistaken(dont have mine at home with me).

 

[Mr Wu]

I don't remember EXACTLY when that language was written. But it was after XJT started charter ops. I believe there have been times on the charter sdie, due to "customer request" there have been two FA's.

Wouldn't they also need an extra one if the charter is scheduled to go longer than 14 hours?

 

[GINCHBLASTER]

Kind of obvious, but the two required flight attendants is also in reference to when the first one is doing IOE.

Thanks XJET this is great for everyone! Hopefully others will follow.

 

[dojetdriver]

Wouldn't they also need an extra one if the charter is scheduled to go longer than 14 hours?

Couldn't tell you, doubt it though. Why the cutoff at 14? I'm not familiar with the FA's contract.

Kind of obvious, but the two required flight attendants is also in reference to when the first one is doing IOE.

Usually 1A is blocked off for the FA giving IOE. It would be kinda hard to fully observe from the rear seat during certain phases of flight.

 

[great cornholio]

COEX=any off line pilot can sit in the aft FA JS
UAX=nobody can sit in the aft FA JS

If you are trying it on COEX and the CA doesnt know you can(i.e. isnt a commuter), its in the FOM now if I am not mistaken(dont have mine at home with me).

The guy knew that I could sit in it if it was COEX but he wasn't sure about UAX. Instead of just saying no he actually went out of his way to make a few phone calls to find out a definite answer. The answer he got sounded like the guys at XJT are working with UAL to find a way to get this started on the UAX side as well. Hopefully it happens...I'm IAD based and it would be nice to have an "extra" seat that can help get me home.

 

[Mr Wu]

Couldn't tell you, doubt it though. Why the cutoff at 14? I'm not familiar with the FA's contract.

Nothing to do with a contract. You may want to brush up on F/A duty times before he/she gets you violated.

 

[wrigley23]

COEX=any off line pilot can sit in the aft FA JS
UAX=nobody can sit in the aft FA JS

If you are trying it on COEX and the CA doesnt know you can(i.e. isnt a commuter), its in the FOM now if I am not mistaken(dont have mine at home with me).

OK thanks, I'll remember that next time. In my case the gate agent said no, the captain didn't know so he called the chief pilot and he said no. But the Continental guy on the cockpit seat agreed to switch with me to get me home.

 

[dojetdriver]

Nothing to do with a contract. You may want to brush up on F/A duty times before he/she gets you violated.

Since all the charters I've done never got close to 14 hours, it's not something I need to worry about.

Find somebody else to lecture.