Xjt CRJs at UAX

[Clutch]

Not being a smarts ass really. You have a lot of insider info. If UA wanted SkyWest to do it then why didn't they? And once again how did they strong arm UA?

Just relaying information from the chief pilots, and you can replace the word strong-armed with something less hostile if you'd like... And yeah you were being a smart ass.

 

[russtgol]

Just relaying information from the chief pilots, and you can replace the word strong-armed with something less hostile if you'd like.

Why didn't SkyWest do the flying if that's what UA wanted? (Side note) chief pilots don't know squat about what happens behind closed doors...

 

[Freebrd]

than merge with another company. That is when we started to fall apart. I think it has more to do with the size of the company exceeding the scope of our middle management's ability. But nonetheless, thats when this place took the downturn.
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Middle mgt as well as UPPER MANAGEMENT! BH is in way over his head. Part of the 'good old boy's club at SKYW I guess. If St George was serious about this mess they'd be doing something to straighten it out, and keeping BH in place isn't being totally serious. Actually surprised Delta hasn't stepped in. They've done it in the past.

 

[Nevets]

The Skyw/xjt company. I have no problem being a combined Asa/lxjt company. I was IAD-based and made lots of friends who are on the Erj, and unlike most of my Atl coworkers don't have anything against the erj group. In fact I appreciate the erj resilience, because if it were up to us we'd probably have a contract we r ashamed of.



But from a biz sense it would have been better for Asa to be independent and grow within United organically rather than merge with another company. That is when we started to fall apart. I think it has more to do with the size of the company exceeding the scope of our middle management's ability. But nonetheless, thats when this place took the downturn.



I now feel we should be operated separately with different cbas and lists, and bid for cpas independently. Whether that's possible with our current corporate structure, I don't know. I do know the present condition of xjt has created a positive motivation for people to move on, and no matter what happens I hope most of us are safely at another carrier.

This is an idea that was presented to Inc. Three separate airlines, three separate contracts, and one master seniority list. They are not interested because it takes away their ability to suppress our wages for them to make a bit more money. And we also have an unwilling pilot group. Oh well. I don't regret anything.

 

[CFI2766]

There...simply...aren't... .... words to describe the fecal equivalency here...

 

[wms]

ASA bought nothing.. SkyWest INC did the buying.. Matter of fact how did SkyWest INC have the money to buy ASA and XJT?

By we I meant the collective Skyw group. The strong arm was ual needed $80m and Skyw had it to lend, in exchange for Asa getting its foot in the door.

Your attitude illustrates that from the top down we are not one corporation, but three divided groups propagated and maintained that way by inc.

 

[wms]

This is an idea that was presented to Inc. Three separate airlines, three separate contracts, and one master seniority list. They are not interested because it takes away their ability to suppress our wages for them to make a bit more money. And we also have an unwilling pilot group. Oh well. I don't regret anything.

Knowing what I know about the Skyw pilot group, I don't want one list. They don't have the fortitude to stand up for improvements, but would rather let everyone else do the work.

 

[Russ]

Knowing what I know about the Skyw pilot group, I don't want one list. They don't have the fortitude to stand up for improvements, but would rather let everyone else do the work.

I don't think you're going to need to worry about it.

 

[Nevets]

I don't think you're going to need to worry about it.

No, like I said a couple of posts ago, you guys don't want any part of them (or us). Or anyone for that matter.

 

[Russ]

While I'm not sure I agree with your premise, I agree with your conclusion. I think ( and no, I unlike others don't claim to have any insider info) that SGU will lick its wounds, pick up whatever profitable pieces there are and move on.

 

[amcnd]

Just hope they disclose the plan on the quarterly call.. Good or bad. Just tell us!!!

 

[whymeworry?]

Latest union/ company info, from the UAL side, is that management plans to remove 130 50-seaters for the '2014-15 plan. Didn't say which carriers this will come from. Some of that flying will be replaced by 70 seaters.

 

[Clutch]

Latest union/ company info, from the UAL side, is that management plans to remove 130 50-seaters for the '2014-15 plan. Didn't say which carriers this will come from. Some of that flying will be replaced by 70 seaters.

From the UAL side you say? Must be ASA's delta crj's.

 

[TOOL CRIB]

Funny part is that there are around 8 gates in IAD (inner A-gates) that only a CRJ-200 or maybe a Saab 340 are short enough to fit into. Wonder if they thought about that?

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Latest union/ company info, from the UAL side, is that management plans to remove 130 50-seaters for the '2014-15 plan.

'50-seat jets will have a role well into the future.'

On the time scale of an ant, perhaps.