canyonblue said:Sorry, my friend has been flying them all over at NetJets.
I really doubt this is true.
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canyonblue said:Sorry, my friend has been flying them all over at NetJets.
SWA/FO said:Flapgut Dude,
Net Jets has over 500 airplanes - they are flying somebody? And its not purple freight.
the SWA/FO~
FlyBoeingJets said:Flopgut,
You hit the nail on the head. AA wants the passengers with money. AA has moved in and out of markets. They have increased service (and then usually reduced it when they could) to ensure a higher than average ticket prices with reduced competition. They have always talked about what they were doing for the passenger and how they were growing but really all they wanted was to squeeze competitors first then the pooring passenger out of flying.
Looking forward now....AA management is so giddy about ticket price increases sticking they are parking 27 airplanes the next 12 months (MD 80's I think) and bragging abougt how its good for the corporation because the reduced capacity will drive ticket prices sky high in "select" markets.
I'm going to name you the "History Professor" because you latch onto some of the most obscure and unrelated tidbits concerning Dallas airline history. You can tease SWA about "advantages" but AA has just as many. AA may have "earned" their dominant position but they did so while treating their employees like dirt and getting caught price fixing by the government. Not to mention their ruthless behavior concerning competition. AA made SWA look like a girl scout. Business, like life, is not fair and bad things happen to good people. It's just AA's model of operations is incredibly inefficient and they can't make a decent profit out of their huge revenue, unless they fix the playing field. Knowing that fact I would like to look to the future, not rehash old rivalries.
Heard a good one yesterday. AA may be the Evil Empire but SWA is the Borg.
The LCC model will assimilate all. More likely someone will "merge" with a LCC to take advantage of the profit it generates. This will happen when SWA gets into international flying.
Flopgut, I'm looking forward not back when I study history. Remember when the B-scales were all the rage? SWA dropped theirs after a brief period around 1990. Newhires thru year 3 at SWA were making 12K more than AA pilots. And SWA was still growing like gangbusters. I predict the same for the next 3 years.
I could give a crap if I make someone like Herb Kelleher happy
Flopgut said:...I don't think intl flying is something you should be excited about SWA doing. It's a pretty delicate thing you've got going, you just blew through your self imposed max ticket price and most of your fuel hedging is still in place. (interesting) It's going to change your productivity and employee per AC metrics. IMHO the international customer isn't ready for the SWA show.
You'll do whatever, we'll see what happens...
Flopgut said:SWA has thrived on the regualtory wrecking of legacies since day 1..
GuppyWN said:Flop, Ya know. I want to like you man. You seem like you've been around longer than most of us and have experience to glean. Why are you so bitter? What's your story?
I'm just a humble servant of my man Herb and life aint so bad. Not like it was 20 or 30 years ago but this is still a great job. The big difference between us and other airlines is this.
Herb loves airplanes and his people.
Carty, Crandall, Tilton, Grinstein, Gangwall, et al love making money. They could give a crap if it's off the backs of their employees or in their golden parachute.
Gup
FlyBoeingJets said:I agree with you about how SWA doing international is a danger. The much talked about, and made fun of, strategy of 1 airplane type is the key. Training, scheduling, manning, and replacing different aircraft types is a killler for airlines. That, in my humble opinion, is the most significant financial (read most important) difference between SWA and the other majors going forward.
I predict a new version of the 737, or an airplane that shares the type, made with 787 composites and technology with international intentions will eventually be in SWA colors. But this is 2009 or beyond. Look at the end of the current orders and you can probably pick a reasonable date.
I just hope the pilot group is smart enough to understand how giving international code share to our partner for a few years will further the company's long term goals. (Could be wrong on this but that is my theory)
One thing I disagree with you on is SWA's service. SWA is spending to upgrade computers to "accomodate" assigned seating. In a couple of years they will work with inflight for meal service. You'll see.