Wow Pinnacle's Delta numbers suck

[Crowing Rooster]

And as far as on time performance goes....This is not necessarily a pilot function.

The pilot is part of a team. These pilots whom are my co-workers are top notch. I know many of these guys and they operate professional, safe and legal flights every day. This is in their control.

Now the three ringed circus that goes on with the rest of the operation is a function of how the upper management leads...it is management's responsibility to staff the airline.

It is managements responsibility to provide parts to maintain aircraft.

It is management's responsibility to have well trained individuals and to make Pinnacle a place that is not constantly plauged with the chaos that high turnover causes.

So for my Pinnacle brothers in ATL keep up the good work.

 

[PCL_128]

....the ASA and CMR pilots proposed that in 2000, but mainline arrogance prevented it....

Arrogance was certainly a problem, but not from the mainline pilots....

I told you the two possible answers and neither one really puts ALPA in a positive light...

And I reject your two answers. Neither are accurate.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Arrogance was certainly a problem, but not from the mainline pilots....

How so? It is the mainline pilots who think they are superior....It is they who are opposed to a single list....

And I reject your two answers. Neither are accurate.

How do you figure? According to you, they owned the flying. We also know that they were furloughing while the regionals were hiring.....

There are only 2 answers... Either they didn't really own the flying, or they didn't care enough to negotiate jobs for their furloughed "brothers"...There is no other way to spin it....

 

[PCL_128]

How so? It is the mainline pilots who think they are superior....It is they who are opposed to a single list....

No ego compares to that of a regional pilot who believes that he deserves anything more than a staple in a merger with a mainline carrier. Plenty of you RJDC wankers thought you deserved far more than a staple job. That's immense ego.

How do you figure? According to you, they owned the flying. We also know that they were furloughing while the regionals were hiring.....

There are only 2 answers... Either they didn't really own the flying, or they didn't care enough to negotiate jobs for their furloughed "brothers"...There is no other way to spin it....

They owned the flying and decided to outsource it. How much they "cared" for the furloughed pilots is debatable, but we can always remember that you and JC didn't give a damn about them. That much is certain.

 

[JoeMerchant]

No ego compares to that of a regional pilot who believes that he deserves anything more than a staple in a merger with a mainline carrier. Plenty of you RJDC wankers thought you deserved far more than a staple job. That's immense ego.

What's wrong with using ALPA merger policy? Is there something wrong with ALPA merger policy?

They owned the flying and decided to outsource it. How much they "cared" for the furloughed pilots is debatable, but we can always remember that you and JC didn't give a damn about them. That much is certain.

I care about them as much as they care about me....Mainline pilots only care about their regional "brothers" when they are getting furloughed.....

 

[pilotbrain]

There are only 2 answers... Either they didn't really own the flying, or they didn't care enough to negotiate jobs for their furloughed "brothers"...There is no other way to spin it....[/quote]

You points are well thought out but I think you are missing one point.

If they didnt own the flying than explain Jets for Jobs.

 

[PCL_128]

What's wrong with using ALPA merger policy? Is there something wrong with ALPA merger policy?

Do you think you deserved more than a staple? If so, you have an ego problem beyond imagination.

 

[JoeMerchant]

You points are well thought out but I think you are missing one point.

If they didnt own the flying than explain Jets for Jobs.

EXACTLY!!...We didn't have J4Js at ASA/CMR....We had the RJDC lawsuit which prevented it....

How come DAL didn't get jets4jobs?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Do you think you deserved more than a staple? If so, you have an ego problem beyond imagination.

Do you not think that ALPA merger policy applies to a regional/mainline integration....If so...Why? Should a mainline pilot get a winfall at my expense?

All I'm looking for is to keep them out of my seat.....Not trying to get into theirs ahead of them.....

 

[PCL_128]

You still didn't answer the question. But that's not a surprise.

 

[JoeMerchant]

You still didn't answer the question. But that's not a surprise.

You haven't answered the question either....Do you not support ALPA merger policy?

Do I think a 6 month DAL FO should be able to bump a 25 year ASA or CMR Capt? NO! Do you think they should?

 

[PCL_128]

Of course I support ALPA Merger Policy. But the only reasonable application of ALPA Merger Policy to a merger between a regional and a mainline carrier would be a staple with fences.

 

[pilotbrain]

I guess not being in the regional industry I don't understand what you guys are arguing about...but I do know that the regionals dont own the flying they do.....they just are leasing it.

 

[PCL_128]

I guess not being in the regional industry I don't understand what you guys are arguing about...but I do know that the regionals dont own the flying they do.....they just are leasing it.

Then you know more than Joey. And that's pretty sad, considering that he's been at the regionals for a very, very, very long time.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Of course I support ALPA Merger Policy. But the only reasonable application of ALPA Merger Policy to a merger between a regional and a mainline carrier would be a staple with fences.

The PID only asked that ALPA merger policy be used....The "DOH" myth was a DALPA fabrication...ALPA merger policy was all that was asked.....All I want is protection of my current job.....