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Not much to choose from this year. I'll let the jerk-off party liars, spinners, and con-men, fight this one out and laugh from the sidelines. To my mind, it doesn't make any difference which one wins, so I think I'll save gas, now at $2.00 a gallon, and abstain.

It's just a pathetic shame that 900 of our young men and women have died in Iraq to free people who either don't want it, or don't deserve it.
 
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I gave up on us, the voters, when Clinton won a second term. If he can do it, W can too, but it's hard to make everyone happy when you're not a liar.

Pretty weak that Kerry's biggest strength is that he's running against Bush.

It's sad when the best people for the job won't degrade themselves by running for President anymore.
 
I'm with you Rock. I was **CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED****CENSORED** tired of getting sucker punched by terrorists. We finally got a president that was willing to do more than throw a few cruise missiles at expired targets. It was high time to kick some serious butt, and I think our military and homeland defense has done an outstanding job. I thank God everyday that Bush was in office during 9-11 instead of Gore. Bush hasn't made all the right decisions, who does? Overall, he's done an outstanding job during an extremely difficult time. Even Clinton knew something had to be done with Saddam, but wasn't willing to take the difficult step. Deficit? Yes. With lower taxes and an expensive yet necessary war going on, what do you expect? Besides, the economy is coming back strong. Obviously lower taxes has worked as advertised. For me, I got a huge refund for 2003 and I took my family on a great vaction this year because of it. Screw socialism, I'm voting for BUSH!
 
I would vote Democratic if they did not align themselves with every radical group out there. The old school Democrats from years ago are a dying breed. Today the modern Democratic party has a plan for complete socialism and the complete redistribution of wealth. They malign themselves with your plight and tell you anything to get your vote. But they seldom come through. If they do come through it is in the form of govt. hand outs. They never provide a real plan to solve a problem. They give out just enough to keep you going and dangle a promise of more. Only to barely produce.

BOTH PARTIES ARE BIG CORPORATION FRIENDLY. This is how they get there financing. In fact many companies are "fence riders" they contribute millions to both parties. Either way they win. The modern news media is very pro Democrat so you hear very little about anything negative.

Clinton was the beginning of the end. The market took a turn for the worst in April 1999. After years of false inflation and big corporate lying under Clinton’s watch. There was also more Terrorists acts committed under his watch then under Bush.

As far as the French and the Germans. They are upset because they got caught with a wet finger in the sugar sack as far as Iraq was concerned. FU&^ the French. They have never liked us and never will.

And for Iraq, if the part of the world wants to fight, bring it on. Let them fight our professionals instead of our citizens. Iraq is an immediate and long-term solution to that part of the world.

Long Term – 20 years from now there could be a working democracy in Iraq. One that all the surrounding countries are scared of. After a while the Saudi people will be asking why don’t we have a democracy? This could be the start of civil war after civil war in that area of the world. GOOD. Let them fight amongst each other. We will just sit back and watch them.

Mark

 


Long Term – 20 years from now there could be a working democracy in Iraq. One that all the surrounding countries are scared of. After a while the Saudi people will be asking why don’t we have a democracy? This could be the start of civil war after civil war in that area of the world. GOOD. Let them fight amongst each other. We will just sit back and watch them.

Mark

A possiblility and I hope you are right.
 
Support Osama, vote W

Draginass said:
It's just a pathetic shame that 900 of our young men and women have died in Iraq to free people who either don't want it, or don't deserve it.
It's a pathetic shame that this administration didn't understand that before they invaded that place. They've pissed away the lives of 900 of our finest, wrecked our military and left us defenseless should a tin-pot dictator get it into his mind to cause a little trouble. All for what? Oh yeah, the creation of a terrorist paradise.

Osama bin Laden endorses GW Bush. For real. No kidding. Osama wants W re-elected, because W is the best recruiter Osama ever had.

Support Osama, vote W.
 
vc10 said:
wrecked our military and left us defenseless
Your profile says civilian. I'd rather take a military man's point of view on this subject. If you do not know this as fact, please don't post it. You are entitled to your opinion though by starting your sentence.."In my opinion..".
 
Some of you (Rock,et.al.) are prodding me to re-think my original thought of staying home this election. Politics have become a professional wrestling match. However, the thought of Kerry and Sueme Edwards of being in charge may be the prodding I need.

The choices we have are like having to pick the best looking daughter from an ugly family.
 
For VC10 and the other Kerry lovers...consider this bit of info...If you thought John Kerry was scary, he doesn't hold a candle to his wife! Maria Teresa Thiersten Simoes-Ferreira Heinz Kerry...
 
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Two Presidential candidates - both born rich, both currently even richer.
Two Vice-Presidential candidates - both rich, one a Washington insider with shady ties to gov't contractors, one raised humbly and on his own accord became one of the richest ambulance chasers in the country.

I'm still waiting to hear what Kerry has to say, Bush-bashing aside. I honestly want to hear what he would have done different, and what he would do differently as President. As a member of the "Rock the Vote" generation, I'm going to make my own decisions based upon what each man can do for my career, family and country (not necessarily in that order).

I'm probably gonna vote Bush because he is a known quantity, where Kerry has been running behind the Michael Moore/Whoopi/New York Times "Bush must go" moniker. Such is VERY dangerous for the country - people not voting for what Kerry believes in, but for who he IS NOT. I don't like everything Bush has done, but I think he's taking us in the right direction. Anybody in cahoots with Hanoi Jane has 2 1/2 strikes against them already, IMO.

My career is NOT as important as the safety of my family and country, and the Dems are NOT the champion of the common man labor unions paint them to be.

Zell Miller for President!
 
balls deep340 said:


Long Term – 20 years from now there could be a working democracy in Iraq. One that all the surrounding countries are scared of. After a while the Saudi people will be asking why don’t we have a democracy? This could be the start of civil war after civil war in that area of the world. GOOD. Let them fight amongst each other. We will just sit back and watch them.

Mark

A possiblility and I hope you are right.
Finally, somebody who gets it. The status quo in the Middle East is not sustainable over the long term. Iraq doesn't even have to become a democracy, just develop an economically viable middle class. Bush has injected this into the Middle East like a virus, because the religious fundamentalists are more afraid of progress, women's rights, and individual freedoms more than anyone's army. The alternative is that radical Islam overthrows the sultans, gains access to petro-dollars, and all the weapons that billions of oil dollars can buy coupled to the idealogy of jihad.

Whether or not Bush is the right person to carry this plan forward remains to be seen, Kerry might well be a better choice. However, the decision to fight radical islam by injecting democracy into Iraq is brilliant and farsighted.
 
Rock I've seen our nation at its strongest and weakest. I'm obviously voting for Bush in '04.[/QUOTE said:
Same. Rock for President!

Been there done that. Amazes me when rank and file civilians (no harm intended) fail to realize we sat on a low grade war for a decade (Iraq) with DEMOCRATS doing nothing because they knew it would not be popular. Conversely, we joined a popular war (Kosovo, Yugo, et al) to make friends in the international arena, and are still there losing folks, which you don't hear about do you? Democrats, can't live with em, can't kill em, whats a guy to do?
 
"It was high time to kick some serious butt, and I think our military and homeland defense has done an outstanding job."

Are you for real. It's apparent that you haven't left home or have been out of the country for awhile. Homeland security is a joke. Do you know who is basically the day to day operations director? Admiral Loy, that guy who ran the TSA and made it the laughing stock it is. Loy couldn't find his arse with both hands. Go talk to some local, regional and state police about how good our HS dept. is doing. I know I work with these people all the time. The only thing that has changed is we now have drills to RESPOND, but still no real plan to PREVENT attacks. No real communication. Well I guess you can say there is some but mixing a possible threat in a teletype with a couple stolen cars from BFE really doesn't seem to reach it's target demographic.
 
Ivan, I think you've been yankenoff too much. I have been out of the country many times, both before and since 9-11. Getting back into the good-ole USA has changed quite a bit. Why do you think so many complain about the security. Its unpredictable and a pain in the arse now. How many ships have been help off at sea, how many commercial jet liners have been turned away, how many armed pilots and LEO's are flying today? Things have changed buddy, you need to drop your sock and pay attention.
 
Donald, what you are seeing is purely a show. People complain about security because it's a joke. What we have done shouldn't even fall into the definition of security. FAM procedures are a joke, FFDO procedures are a joke, LEO procedures are a joke, non-flightcrew screening procedures are a joke, baggage screening procedures are a joke, airport perimeter security is a joke. Need I go on? Ask any security expert how well this adminsitration has responded. Armed pilots and LEO's have no effect on manpads, bombs, sabotage, etc. I'm fully in support of armed pilots but there are gaping holes that need filling and it's almost three years later. This is unacceptable.
 
Ivan, I guess we define jokes differently. I know very well what the procedures are for an FFDO and its no joke. How can you call the business end of a .40 caliber a joke. I was often asked by the TSA to display my scissors to make sure they're not pointed. Its seems a little rediculous, but thats the rule and they catch it. My neighbor is a FAM. He doesn't consider his job a joke and I hope he's on my aircraft if I need him. As with any procedure, nothing's perfect. Yes, someone will find a way some day, but how many hijackings have happened in our country since 9-11. We can't catch everything today, but aviation is more safe. Not percfect, but definetely much more safe.
 
rock..from a civilian guy.. thank you for your time in the service. thanks for your courage. thanks for writing your post. thanks for killing some terrorists. you have my vote for president! most of the military guys and gals are voting for bush, that's all i need to know! i have worked for 2 alpa major airlines and i am currently furloughed from one because "we don't want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg, just" .....you know the rest of the quote. i am sick to my stomach that alpa is telling me to vote for kerry. i don't vote along party lines, i vote for who i think is the right person. watching the convention makes me sick also, and seeing the clintons again, ughhh. again, great post.....the farmboy.
 
Who lit the fuse on your tampon?

balls deep340 said:
Almost up to 1000 of our troops killed why?????????

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Balls deep, I see you've set aside this special time to humiliate yourself in public. I would like to offer the following quote to help answer your "why":

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which feels that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." --John Stewart Mill

Yes, this applies to you.

I hear Air France is hiring...bon voyage.



 

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