Would you report this for your medical?

[mike-the-bike]

A hypothetical question.

Say you had a "medical incident" over 5 years ago. There was no medical record of this and it wasn't something that would show up on any test. This incident had never manifested itself since and didn't predispose you to another incident. While the incident was something that the FAA might take an interest in reviewing, they would just end up having you checked out before OKing you. Since the incident had no lasting effect, you will check out fine.

Would you report this for your medical?

Just curious what YOU would do....

 

[PaulThomas]

If you need to ask, you most likely need to report it.

 

[bigD]

How sure are you that this problem won't manifest itself in the future? To me, that's the big issue here. I fly a plane with a pretty rediculous amount of redundancy, but my body is still a single point of failure (it's not a two pilot airplane). If I go, the plane and passengers will likely go with me.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

What Happened?

 

[Singlecoil]

A hypothetical question.

Say you had a "medical incident" over 5 years ago. There was no medical record of this and it wasn't something that would show up on any test. This incident had never manifested itself since and didn't predispose you to another incident. While the incident was something that the FAA might take an interest in reviewing, they would just end up having you checked out before OKing you. Since the incident had no lasting effect, you will check out fine.

Would you report this for your medical?

Just curious what YOU would do....

This happened to a friend. It took him a couple of years and several batteries of test where they were unable to duplicate his problem before the FAA gave him his medical back. He flies for a major now. I think I would keep my mouth shut if you were confident it wasn't going to happen again.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

If nobody knows about it, then nobody knows about it, unless you say something.

Most people can't resist saying something.

Around here, we had a guy named Monfils that was murdered while at work in a paper mill. His co-workers were stealing property from the company, and he used an anonymous line to tip the police.

The criminal co-workers were upset that they were caught stealing, so they asked the police department who told on them. The police gave them Monfils' name, and they promptly killed him at work.

There were about 15 or so people that were involved, but nothing could be proved in court because everyone kept their mouth shut.

About 5 years after the fact, one of the main criminals begain spouting his mouth off while at a bar, and the whole lot of them were convicted for conspiricy.

A number of the conspiritors protested that they were "innocent" (they didn't directly kill Monfils). I HATE people like that. Of course they were guilty. They knew exactly who did what in the murder and wouldn't say anything, and then they have the gall to complain they shouldn't be punished because they weren't involved.

Cliff
GRB

 

[mike-the-bike]

Nothing happened.

I'm just wondering what people here would actually do.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Nothing happened.

And Monfils is still alive and nobody knows nothin'.

 

[apcooper]

The criminal co-workers were upset that they were caught stealing, so they asked the police department who told on them. The police gave them Monfils' name, and they promptly killed him at work.

Oh my God! Those cops ought to be criminally prosecuted for leaking out this! The family ought to sue the pants off the police department as well. I can't imagine the civil judgement against the involved cops would be anything less than astronomical!! Our world seems to be getting more dangerous by the day.


God help us!!!!

 

[EatSleepFly]

There was no medical record of this and it wasn't something that would show up on any test. This incident had never manifested itself since and didn't predispose you to another incident.

Would you report this for your medical?

Report what?

What medical incident?

 

[doh]

Nothing happened.

I'm just wondering what people here would actually do.

I wouldn't report any thing I haven't consulted a physician about. There is no paper trail, there is no incident! Never give the beauracrat a reason to fill out a form!

 

[wrxpilot]

I guess you have to take it all into context... I've been knocked uncouncious doing certain activities, and I also passed out doing another (no, not sex though I wish). What are you to do? I was doing some stuff far beyond what most people are doing (high alititude), but I'm not going to report it. Too much paperwork and franky n/a. Is this your situation??

 

[Capthuff]

I dont think the FAA cares if you got crabs from some darlin' at the corner "whore store".

 

[Sprint100]

Huh?????? What medical incident? or I can't recall that at all!!!!!!!!!!! or Wasn't me!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[sqwkvfr]

Oh my God! Those cops ought to be criminally prosecuted for leaking out this! The family ought to sue the pants off the police department as well. I can't imagine the civil judgement against the involved cops would be anything less than astronomical!! Our world seems to be getting more dangerous by the day.


God help us!!!!

Is this one of those sarcastic posts that I can't tell is sarcastic?

 

[Vik]

Nothing happened! Lets keep it moving!!

 

[AA717driver]

NO! I don't know what it is nor do I care. But if you want a career in this business--NEVER VOLUNTEER ANY INFORMATION TO ANY FED! In fact, unless they subopena you, never tell them ANYTHING.TC

 

[GogglesPisano]

NO! I don't know what it is nor do I care. But if you want a career in this business--NEVER VOLUNTEER ANY INFORMATION TO ANY FED! In fact, unless they subopena you, never tell them ANYTHING.TC

Give this man a cigar!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

The city settled out of court with the family of Monfils. They weren't supposed to release his name, but there was nothing in writing specifically prohibiting it at the time. The procedures have changed at the police department.

CLiff
HEF

 

[avbug]

If at some future date your information becomes available to the FAA, you'll have your certificates revoked...all of them, for fraud. Conversely, if you have legitimate evidence that your condition has been handled and has two years probation without evidence of reoccurance, then you should have little trouble presenting this to the FAA.

I wouldn't merely put it on the form and hope for the best, however, You should, at the least, consult with professionals who deal with your specific question. Any counsel offered on this site is not the counsel you need when making this type of decision. Visit www.leftseat.com for more information and some specific interaction with AME's and physicians who specialize in ensuring that you obtain your medical with minimum hassle.

You're far and away best being fully open and disclosing anything that might come back to haunt you later. Don't let it hang on the idea that merely because you don't tell the FAA, they won't find out. Someone who wants a favor from you, someone who does an indepth background check on you, someone that wants to blackmail you, can easily use small things like this against you, holding it over your head...and though in all liklihood that will never happen, you'll always know. It will bother you.

Be open, disclose your condition under the guidance of a professional, consult in advance with an AME (such as the professional who will be counseling you), and make your decisions and acts based on solid counsel...not what's found here on this site. A little thing like this, wrongly handled, can be a career breaker. Don't let that happen.

 

[apcooper]

Avbug,


I'm curious as to know how the FAA could find out an unreported medical problem than you consulted a doctor with other than if you had an aircraft accident or other unrelated violation. Recently I read this article at avweb.com and it gave a survey and something like 1/3 of all pilots didn't report a med problem to the FAA and another 21% didn't report medication. Since medical records are so sacred and strictly confidental the only circumstance in which I can envision anyone getting a hold of them is with a suponea or other court order. This seems difficult to do even when it relates to a criminal investigation (minors having abortions when statuatory rape is likely) let alone an administrative certificate action. On the other hand the FAA can (and does) have complete access to the National Driver Register to check for motor vehicle violations and other misdemeanors and felonies. I, personally would be honest about whatever condition I had but that is just my 2 cents. I would find it very surprising if anyone could find out whatever condition you had unless you happen to tell people other than your personal doctor or had a recurrence of the condition that people could see.