Would Jesus go to Church?

[USMCAirWinger]

so is it brazil or brasil

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

so is it brazil or brasil

HA!
I don't care if they spell it Brazzill, just so long as it's the cut of bikini' the LBFMs choose!

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Man this winter has been pretty weak for the east coast. About the only place that has been constantly blowing up is Puerto Rico. Can wait till I get a job there or Hawaii

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

It has to do with getting a hummer at work, doesn't it?

Yeah, something like that, I think...

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Man this winter has been pretty weak for the east coast. About the only place that has been constantly blowing up is Puerto Rico. Can wait till I get a job there or Hawaii

Pray for surf!

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Ok it's hijack time...Surfing is the new topic

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Pray for a hurricane

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

Pray for a hurricane

I just got off the phone with the insurance company regarding my homeowners policy...please.....DON"T!

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Well, it just happens that they always miss the N FL area giving us the major energy without the destruction...but North Carolina is a different story...I thought you would understand...

 

[Typhoon1244]

Ok it's hijack time...Surfing is the new topic.

Wait, before we go...

Originally posted by Hugh
So not only is Christianity not a religion, Timebuilder is not a religious person. This is really turning into a hoot! I actually used to believe this guy was reasonably bright, albeit fanatically blinded by extremist philosphy.

TB, I got to admit, I don't know what to make of this idea of yours either. I think I understand what you're trying to say...and frankly, it sounds like more Christian arrogance to me. "Those other belief systems--Islam, Judaism, Buddhism--are mere religions, whereas Christianity is 'God's truth.'"

You're going to be awful surprised when "God" turns out to be a multi-dimensional subatomic particle.

 

[Hugh Jorgan]

I thought you would understand...

Yeah, yeah... I do. Just please, could you be very ocean-specific in your prayer? No hurricanes for the mid-pacific, please

 

[USMCAirWinger]

Wait a sec....are we talking about prayer...TB will come out and call us a bunch of ______________!

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I really agree with what TB said here:

"A religion replaces the idea of being obedient to God with being obedient to Man, through rituals and prepared prayers that are always the same which Man has devised as a structure of worship."

This is why it is so important to strictly separate Church and State. All religions/churches are set up by people, based on their interpretation of something. They are human institutions, and, or course, because of that, are fundamentally flawed.

Usually, religions are set up by people to support the right of a leader of a group to rule. They add to the leader's legitimacy, and help to surpress all opposition.

In a democracy, people are free to express their opinion. When we let a religion into government, we then have specific people telling the rest of us what is right and wrong, and they can make all of us do stuff we don't want to do.

In that way, the old-line communist governments and theocracies like Iran and Afghanistan are very similar, they tell you what to do, what to think, and how to behave.

People need to be free to evolve spiritually, and oppressive governments prevent this.

Keep the Church out of our government. No 10 commandments in government buildings, no preaching in schools or at official government funtions.

Cliff
DTW

PS-TB is trying, which is what we're all supposed to do to improve in God's eyes. If U don't agree with TB, all U need to do is try and improve in your own way.
"Go in peace, earthling."

 

[Timebuilder]

It is important that we follow the founder's vision given in the first amendment.

While we should make no law that establishes an official religion of the united states (which would probably set the idea of religious thought back a milennia or two), we need to be certain to uphold the idea that the free exercise of religion by a free people should not be restricted, regulated, infringed, or legislated against. We have already proceeded a mile or so down that same road, by restricitng observances by teachers, students, and government employees. No such restriction was even intended by the founders.

10 commandments in a courthouse? Is that a law passed by congress establishing a religion? No, it is not. Should the government infringe on a religious observance in any way? No, that too is prohibited, since free exercise is guartanteed.

Better that government not be involoved at all in these decisions about commandments or school prayer. That is the TRUE separation of church and state: the state having no standing to regulate the observances of the church, nor suspend the freedom of the American people to have such observances, even in public.

 

[Timebuilder]

He is...but so are the rest of us.

I mean, aren't you always right? I know I am!

If I hadn't considered these ideas over a long period of time, and found them to be sturdy, I probably wouldn't share them with others.

People throughout time have constructed religious systems, even when the truth was so close to them that they could reach out and touch it, as was the case with the Pharisees. Caiaphas stood so close to Jesus that he could smell His sweat, yet was blinded by what he imagined the Messiah should be; dressed in fine clothes, a mystical man of means, exhibiting great power, ready to topple all Rome with a wave of His hand.

What a disappointment to the Jewish leaders that God decided to come as a man of humility, showing the heart of a servant, not a conquering hero. What a mindbender.

Here's what happened when Moses went up to the mountain, and didn't come back soon enough to suit the people back at camp:

"3 So all the people broke off the golden earrings which were in their ears, and brought them to Aaron. 4 And he received the gold from their hand, and he fashioned it with an engraving tool, and made a molded calf. Then they said, "This is your god, O Israel, that brought you out of the land of Egypt!"

So, the people were satisfied worshipping a golden calf, instead of God. Instead of following truth, they construced a false religion.

 

[dash8driver]

now, even going deaf wont save you from the likes of TB...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Midwest/03/20/deaf.bible.ap/index.html

 

[crowbar]

Jesus is a big myth, might as well ask Zues what church he likes.

 

[Timebuilder]

CNN mentioning a story about people being reached for Christ.

What's next? Hillary endorses Bush?

It boggles the mind...

 

[Typhoon1244]

Jesus is a big myth, might as well ask Zues what church he likes.

Funny you should say that. Isn't it interesting that most (if not all) artistic representations of the Christian "God" look an awful lot like images of Zeus? Ever wondered why that is?

Christianity is not a pure as one might think.

 

[sqwkvfr]

Funny you should say that. Isn't it interesting that most (if not all) artistic representations of the Christian "God" look an awful lot like images of Zeus? Ever wondered why that is? [/QUOTE


Ever wonder if artistic impressions of Zeus look a lot like the Christian "God."

I don't think that it has anything to do with whether Christianity is "pure." (although they are "guided" by God, humans still run the Christianity show here on earth, so it's certainly not and you're gonna find chinks in the armor of ANY instituion that's been around for thousands of years) I'm pretty sure that the two artists renderings simply depict what the majority of westerners would see as a very powerful man.