Wondering

[Gulfstream 200]

WHY?

because your salarys affect the entire industry, thats why.

I do apologize if I struck a cord about your situation.

AGAIN, I hope you guys succeed. We will all be happy to see the end of pathetically underpaid pilots.

once again...BEST OF LUCK!!!

 

[sky4]

abenaki?

Gulfstream 200 is trying to say he hopes you and all of Netjets well! (Some) of you Netjet guys have you brains so far up WB butts that you can't see the light!! I fly for Options and I can even see he is wishing us all well! Some of you guy's can dish it but not take it. Where would Netjets be without WB? He is one man with one mind, he can change it any time! Now, I wish us all well, and I hope Netjet pilots get everything you want. That will bring to whole industry up. I guess what I am trying to say is think before you talk, remember, you are riding someone eleses coat tail, and if he decides to shed it we will all be up the creek!

I am glad you are proud of you company, just as I am proud of mine!

Fly Safe

Sky

 

[Heavy Set]

Given the shockingly-low salaries at NJA (Citation X captain making $42K), what does a 3-4 year captain at Options make? Is it much higher?

Good luck - those wages are ridiculous!!!!! However, in this market (glut of unemployed pilots), not too surprising...

 

[hawkercpt]

options..

3rd year Hawker captain $65000/yr base.

 

[learjetguy]

How much?

43K a year? If thats true I think I will take a day off just to walk the picket line with you guys. Who were the financial wizards that agreed to that contract?

Learguy

 

[FL450]

"Just remember, we are all in the same business "

Really? Are you lumping all of aviation together? I'm interested in your explanation of this.


"HEY, trust me, read my posts - I dont claim to know anything about Execjet, Netjets (whatever) all I know is what I read here. I dont really care about your operation, I would NEVER take a job there - ever- you work too hard and I could not live on your salary."

I guess that would be reason enough for you to antagonize other pilots, wouldn't it? I'm not sure why you delight in such posts, but I am thankful that you are in the minority.

 

[Dep676]

NJA Capt

I am not worrying about your company or contract. I am saying that you guys need to worry about your own company and noboby else's. I could give two craps what kind of pay you guys get over there. I hope they wise up and get rid of the union. Let's see you got Captains in the X making 46k. That's good keep up the good work IBT.

All small cabin FO's start at 34k here at Options. Captains in the small cabin start at 52k. Notice that is the small cabin aircraft too. Not saying any of that is great money either. It would appear that it is more than the IBT got you guys.

So don't give some bullsh!t response and pull selective words from my post. Try and make it look like I care about your company or contract. I was just calling you self professed "sky gods" out at NJA. Everytime someone posts about a fractional. You guys chime in with your two cents about what you heard or think you know. So again I say don't worry about my company. Worry about your own and your "bullsh!t contract".

Oh yeah well we are at it I heard Uncle Warren sold FSI. So now more good deals over ther for you guy at NJA. Isn't that how guys work on rumors about other business. SO AGAIN I SAY WORRY ABOUT YOUR OWN COMPANY INSTEAD OF OTHERS. Is that clear enough for you.

Hey what happened to abenaki? He must of realized the trash he was talking wasn't getting anywhere and deleted all his posts. His posts are all gone.

 

[abenaki]

No, I'm around.....It is very simple......To attempt to converse with those on this board (yourself included) who are so full of bitterness and rancor is a waste of my time and energy. I have no desire to participate in "discussions" that are primarily driven by condescending atittudes, patronizing styles, insults, lack of courtesy and mutual respect, the unwillingness to READ what another has said all the while being accused of things that I DID NOT DO....and that includes jumping in/on FLOPS or FLEXJETS pilots, their company, their management or anything else that YOU accuse me of that I DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN. You haven't got a CLUE as to what you are falsely accusing me of.

You too, like Gulfstream200, are simply people I choose not to deal with simply because your styles are reflective of a character type that are ones where constructive, useful dialogue are not achievable.

 

[Dep676]

Appreciate your concern... But I have confidence in the IBT.... My brother drives a truck that weighs less than my aircraft in Westchester as a Teamster and makes 100K per year....

It was not done all in their first contract.

We will be better off in the long run.

Now that Ricci is gone, I know you'll still get your raise to match and beat NJA's IBT new CBA wages when it is settled. Cause you got that promise IN WRITING -- right?

Wow that really shows how much the IBT cares about you guys. You got guys driving truck making that kind of money. Just think of how much school that had to go through to drive that truck. Maybe if you guys drove trucks instead of flying airplanes you might be able to make that much too.

I never said anything about getting a raise. I don't believe anythng anybody says until it actually happens. Until they are just blowing hot air. Kind of like the IBT does to you guys.

 

[Dep676]

Yeah and we run into people from your company that asks about Ricci. Then when we ask about your "contract" you just turn around and walk away.

How many years has the IBT been helping you? Maybe they will get it right someday before you retire.