Woman Dies on AA. Ouch!

[terryhfly]

Once Medlink is involved they take all the responsibility and liability for further actions.

 

[flydog1]

Someone dies on my flight..I"m landing..if my captian doesn't agree..screw it I'll call an emgerancy, besides like you said no one dies on a flight they are seriously ill...Well seriously ill is an emgergency... hmmm...lets fly a seriously ill person for several more hours....outrageous! It also shows no morals for the airline or crew.

 

[jke406]

Who do I work for?

I have 7 Uniforms in my closet, Licenses from the USA and UK and have been a captain overseas and here since 1997.

I didn't ask you how long your schwantz is, I asked you who you fly for presently.

At least place the deceased in the aft galley.

 

[Wino]

Once Medlink is involved they take all the responsibility and liability for further actions.

Correct, and dispatch is on the line at the same time. Disobey at your own peril.

Yes you are the captain, you could divert the flight anyway, and quite possibly lose your license or be arrested when you land...There really are serious things you are swearing to when you sign a gendec.

I'm not gonna argue with anymore flight instructors or wannabe's about it. There is a very good reason that international flying usually carries a pay override.

Cheers
Wino

PS and one final tidbit for you domestic flight instructor types... Your emergency authority when you declare a mayday or emergency. That covers you for FAR's it does not cover you for TSA, Immigration Customs etc... Your just as convicted if you declare an emergency or don't...

 

[LJDRVR]

Someone dies on my flight..I"m landing..if my captian doesn't agree..screw it I'll call an emgerancy

Let us know how that works out for you. Such big talk on an anonymous bulletin board.

Very little humility, honesty or credibility. (You might get further with your outlandish opinion if the grammar and spelling weren't that of a ninth-grader.)

I do apologize if English is a second language for you. Is it?

 

[737 Pylt]

I didn't ask you how long your schwantz is, I asked you who you fly for presently.

At least place the deceased in the aft galley.

More genetalia talk from jerk406, what else is new?
Hey perv, shouldn't you be stalking the malls looking for your next young man?

737

 

[jke406]

Once Medlink is involved they take all the responsibility and liability for further actions.

They assume liablilty for the airline's negligence when the O2 bottles are empty?

Try again.

 

[737 Pylt]

They assume liablilty for the airline's negligence when the O2 bottles are empty?

Try again.

So much knowledge from someone not even in the airline biz.....Well, even lav rats are considered in aviation!
Keep up the good work jerk, we're all counting on ya!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

737

 

[LJDRVR]

You can't be serious. That is completely unacceptable. A dead person in the aisle? Is that how you'd want one of your family members treated, with no diversion?

If I was a pax, I'd sue for emotional distress.

If someone on a international flight "appears" to die, we are continuing on to the destination. Here's why:

• There is no valid medical reason to divert.

• There is no valid respect-for-the-family reason to inconvenience hundreds of people with lengthy delays and missed connections.

• There are valid DHS reasons to press on to the destination.

• There are valid legal reasons to press on. (Fines, quarantine.)

• There are valid operational reasons to press on. (Overweight landing)

• There are valid economic reason to continue, AMR is not a charity or an air-ambulance service.

I should be a little less callous with you, but since you're not going to like my response anyway, I'm going to ask:

Are you for real? Are you gullible enough to believe some emotionally distraught family member from Haiti that a US Flag carrier doesn't have any operable medical O2 on board?

Here's how her logic works: "My sister just needed to breathe! They gave her oxygen, but since she died, obviously the bottles were empty!" Irresponsible journalist writes dumb story crucifying AMR and you buy it hook line and sinker.

The only thing dumber is how much of my time I just wasted typing this response.

You'd sue them? Wow!!

PS- Are you an airline pilot? I'm guessing no.

 

[LJDRVR]

They assume liablilty for the airline's negligence when the O2 bottles are empty?

Try again.

Pssst. Here's a little secret: the bottles weren't empty.

 

[jke406]

Pssst. Here's a little secret: the bottles weren't empty.

But that's what CNN said! Are you saying CNN would lie?

 

[skiandsurf]

I was flying a transcon flight. Prior to departure, this female pax came into the cockpit to talk to us. She was telling us that she has asthma, and thought we should know about it. She told us were her meds were, and also told us that she was a paramedic.

About an hour into the flight, the FAs called up saying that this pax was having a bad asthma attack. We got medlink on the radio, and had a doctor in the back. Talking to Medlink, the company dispatcher listening in, and talking to the FAs in the back. The medlink doc and the doc onboard, where saying we needed to land. With dispatch listening in, they sent an ACARS message to divert to DTW. They had notified our DTW ops that we were diverting inbound.

Now my case was different, as it didnt end in death, but you can get an idea of whats going on up there.

 

[LJDRVR]

But that's what CNN said! Are you saying CNN would lie?

You certainly believed their initial story. Why are you backtracking now with your pathetic attempt at sarcasm?

Answer my questions:

• Do you really believe American Airlines didn't have O2 on that flight?

• Are you an airline pilot?

 

[learflyer]

You certainly believed their initial story. Why are you backtracking now with your pathetic attempt at sarcasm?

Answer my questions:

• Do you really believe American Airlines didn't have O2 on that flight?

• Are you an airline pilot?

I bet the FA stuff was true though. Once again, airlining blows.

 

[LJDRVR]

I bet the FA stuff was true though. Once again, airlining blows.

Sorry you feel that way. As far as the FA's go, I'm betting you're wrong.

 

[Say Again Over]

If you care to admit, I will be telling everyone I know who asks me about this story that Airline (Wino) would do the same thing, and I'd never fly on them.

406, do some reading, what Wino says is soooo true, by the way, to administer oxygen requires some type of medical certification, it is considered a drug, sounds like AA was following SOP's?

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Its about time jke406 got banned.

 

[ultrarunner]

And MD can call the time of death. The MD on board that makes this declaration doesn't give a $hit how far the deceased is away from the "jet bridge". It's been 'declared' and the time is noted.

 

[flydog1]

Pssst. Here's a little secret: the bottles weren't empty.

Were you on the plane, or part of the crew?

 

[kf4amu]

1. You cant be giving oxygen to every retard who says they need it. If you did, people who are hyperventilating would be getting oxygen...even though hyperventilating is a contraindication for oxygen administration.

2. High flow Oxygen doesnt fix people. It MAY prolong or increase vital signs, but it wont fix anything.

3. AED's wont shock a heart unless its in a specific rythym. Flatline is not one of them. So true, "it didnt work"...but then again it might not have been designed to.

4. Not a captain, but how do you determine the validity of a MD's credentials? There have been lawsuits against EMS, and doctors who assisted at a crash scene and claimed to be a "Doctor" but were merely a Chiropractor or Dentist etc. Without foolproof identification, you cant take their word or the onus is now on you for not doing due diligence.

Horrible reporting, but typical.