Networ-King
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Bally said:I grew up in Detroit with both parents in the UAW. I am for unions.
canyonblue said:So a Flight Attendant should not make 50K a year but a Autoworker who quit school in the 10th grade should make 75K. The UAW is the reason we pay 30K+ for new cars while they shower their masses of uneducated workers with compensation not seen by many laborers in this country. I'm pro-union, but the UAW is the worst example of people being overpaid for their skills. I am sure many pilots would love to have the layoff pay that UAW workers enjoy, almost 100% of pay while sitting at home. All that compensation will be included in the price of your fancy new car.
hawkowl88 said:You know what's included in the price of your SUV? A $10,000 - 15,000 PROFIT MARGIN. Profit, meaning money net of expenses including labor.
Let's keep the topics to aviation industry. Most pilots are barely knowledgeable about this field. If we digress you make us all look like horses *ss's
Falconjet said:Wow: I usually find that V70T5 has pretty interesting things to say on this board. But I have to disagree a bit on this one, and many of the other ideas about limiting anybody's pay to some arbitrary level. Our forefathers fought to make this a free country, where the market place decides what "the job is worth". If anybody wants to start setting acceptable salaries for certain professions I'll volunteer to step in line right after professional athletes and CEOs of major corporations. We don't want anybody arbitrarily setting our salaries, FAs are no different. What are they supposed to do after a few years, marry some Captain? Come on, I'm only a man of the 90's (thats 1890s!) but even I think that the FAs have every right to collective bargaining and making what the market will bear that we do.
Take it easy.
V70T5 said:Purchasing managers of mid sized building firms with MBA's are making $50,000 (two examples I know of personally)...
F/A should be a $25,000 year job for a few years and then you move onto other things...
Ty Webb said:Uh, hold on there, Chief. A Wal-mart manager makes between $85K-$100K. If you have friends with MBA's that are making $50K it's for a reason. Maybe they're just out of school, or won;t move to where the money is, or just plain ol' don;t have the drive, but to use that as a prism through which to view the worl of compensation . . . . well, that's a little distorted.
FA's should make, after a few years, some decent coin, certainly enough to live on . . . . IF they do a good job, and CONTINUE to do a good job (as opposed to becoming senior, disgruntled "Galley Hags". They are THE customer contact. When the people get off the airplane, and they are happy, it's not because of your landing, Sporto. It's because they were treated well in the back by their point of contact with the company.
So, sorry, put me down as one pilot who thinks FA's should be compensated well. How well? Well, we start ours in the mid $20K's . . I think they should probably be able to get into the mid $30K range, but only if they deliver.
KDA or DEATH said:Mr. Falcon is RIGHT.
The MARKET determines the WAGE.
PERIOD.
END OF STORY.
That wage may be out of line with others in DIFFERENT job categories and/or professions...BUT GUESS WHAT?...An APPLE is NOT an ORANGE.
I know this may be a hard concept for some of you...Perhaps you have a future in Management?
Love,
YKW