Will Republic waive the age 23 for the 170?

[humblepilot9]

Just interviewed and was curious if anyone has been put on the 170 below the age of 23. Also, what is the story on training in the 135/140/145...heard it stopped and all where going to the 170. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks

 

[flyguy81]

as far as i know you must meet all req's to get onto 170. 145 training slowed due to mda/shuttle/republic mess but should pick up again shortly

 

[CAVOK69]

when i was hired into chq they told me i had to be 23 (i was 20 at the time) b/c the sim was a level c and under their regs you had to meet ATP mins to qualify in the sim. (1500tt and 23, and all the other things too) wierd but true

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Under 23, they probably shouldn't even hire you.

 

[chrisdahut24]

Under 23, they probably shouldn't even hire you.

Yet anoher arrogant FLighinfo d1ckhead spouts off his worthless opinion.

 

[FurloughedAgain]

When I was 21 Chautauqua hired me to fly the Jetstream. (sigh) Boy i'd do anything to go back 10 years to that first day at Chautauqua knowing what I know now.

 

[Puck Mugger]

when i was hired into chq they told me i had to be 23 (i was 20 at the time) b/c the sim was a level c and under their regs you had to meet ATP mins to qualify in the sim. (1500tt and 23, and all the other things too) wierd but true

Do they let you bring your toys in the sim???

 

[91100 100 set]

(sigh) Boy i'd do anything to go back 10 years to that first day at (insert airline name here) knowing what I know now.

How many of us can say this? Whether it's 10 years, 5 years, 20 or 30.

 

[Whiskerbizkit]

Under 23, they probably shouldn't even hire you.

I agree, They cant even rent a car.

 

[Crizz]

when i was hired into chq they told me i had to be 23 (i was 20 at the time) b/c the sim was a level c and under their regs you had to meet ATP mins to qualify in the sim. (1500tt and 23, and all the other things too) wierd but true

The Avro sim at Mesaba is a Level C, and they have no such rule. The rule applies to taking your checkride in the simulator. If you meet ATP mins, you can take your checkride and do a LOFT in the sim, and be done. If you do not then you take 80% of your checkride in the sim, and 20% in the actual aircraft. It sounds like CHQ simply didnt want to conduct training outside the sim.

 

[Remington]

The rental car problem was most annoying. A Captain of a multi-million dollar 121 aircraft can't rent a $5000 dollar Neon? That's a bit Assbackwards.
As far as the nay-sayers go about not hiring at less than 23 years old, I have flown with many, many poor pilots that are twice that age with 10 times as many hours. If you can be qualified by 18 years old, submit your app.

 

[Bdfg1]

The rental car problem was most annoying. A Captain of a multi-million dollar 121 aircraft can't rent a $5000 dollar Neon?

Sorry to hear you can't rent a car at the present time. No need to fret, 2-3 years will pass by before you realize it. Happy driving.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

When I was 21 Chautauqua hired me to fly the Jetstream. (sigh) Boy i'd do anything to go back 10 years to that first day at Chautauqua knowing what I know now.

Out of curiosity, what would you change?

Although....I agree...but I'd rather go back 10 years to my freshman year of college knowing what I know now!

-Neal

 

[Captain Overs]

when i was hired into chq they told me i had to be 23 (i was 20 at the time) b/c the sim was a level c and under their regs you had to meet ATP mins to qualify in the sim. (1500tt and 23, and all the other things too) wierd but true

I think this says more about our industry that just "The race to the bottom". I think you have to have to be able to meet certain mins to be a pilot. Otherwise we simply are bus drivers.

 

[Flying Illini]

when i was hired into chq they told me i had to be 23 (i was 20 at the time) b/c the sim was a level c and under their regs you had to meet ATP mins to qualify in the sim. (1500tt and 23, and all the other things too) wierd but true

Is this a 121 rule only? So I couldn't fly the 170 b/c I'm 25 but only have 1250 TT, even though I have a jet type rating?

 

[FurloughedAgain]

What would I change?

Well, I might not have been in so much of a hurry to leave Chautauqua. Keep in mind that this was before Chautauqua had even considered a jet. We were still outstation based in J31s and Saabs.

In retrospect, I had SJS and jumped at the first chance I had to go fly a DC9. AirTran hired lots of people from places like Chautauqa and CCAir back then.

I was furloughed a few months later and went back to Chautauqua. Could've stayed at Chautauqua that time too and still done pretty well. (Oct 98 DOH)

Could've gone back to AirTran after the furlough (Jan 99) and been pretty senior there. (Went to USAir instead)

I dont really have any regrets other than a few wasted years. Time, unfortunately, is one resource that you simply can't get back once its gone.

 

[BluDevAv8r]

What would I change?

Well, I might not have been in so much of a hurry to leave Chautauqua. Keep in mind that this was before Chautauqua had even considered a jet. We were still outstation based in J31s and Saabs.

In retrospect, I had SJS and jumped at the first chance I had to go fly a DC9. AirTran hired lots of people from places like Chautauqa and CCAir back then.

I was furloughed a few months later and went back to Chautauqua. Could've stayed at Chautauqua that time too and still done pretty well. (Oct 98 DOH)

Could've gone back to AirTran after the furlough (Jan 99) and been pretty senior there. (Went to USAir instead)

I dont really have any regrets other than a few wasted years. Time, unfortunately, is one resource that you simply can't get back once its gone.

Good points...but...sounds like you made all the right decisions, given the information you had at the time.

-Neal

 

[FurloughedAgain]

(shrug) who knows. Easy to be a Monday morning quarterback.

One thing's for sure. I wouldn't have been such a know-it-all, smarta$$.

(yup, now that I think about it, it MUST have been SJS!... or maybe just plain ol' immaturity)

 

[mdanno808]

Don't give yourself a hard time. Hind sight is always 20/20, and look at the options you had. Stay at a commuter flying turboprops, or move up in the world, and fly a donnie douglas death dart. Just for the record, this SJS sh!t is the most overused term I've ever heard. If you are a pilot, you're ultimate goal is to fly a big, fast jet. Now, if you're willing to do anything, including paying for that very job, then that is another thing. The funny thing is, after a while, the awe of flying a jet wears off. I'd fly a C 152 if I could get a pay raise, and not get JA'd every two weeks.

You wanna hear a story that makes your stomach turn? A check airman at the place I work was at Midway 1. They shut down, and he couldn't find a job. Finally he was offered a job at a start up called Reno Airlines flying DC 9's. He was in the (I think) 2nd class. He worked there, until he got a call that Midway was going to start up once again. He quit, and returned to Midway, until they shut down again. In the meantime, AA buys Reno, and he is now a 757 check airman at a supplemental carrier.

 

["GO AROUND"]

E170 a level c sim? Never flown one but pretty sure you meant Level d. We train FO's in level D CRJ sims all the time to 100% and the QLOFT. Can't think of a reason why CHQ wouldn't do the same?

 

[flyer172r]

I agree, They cant even rent a car.

That's what the hotel shuttle vans are for.

 

[tricky]

When I was 21 Chautauqua hired me to fly the Jetstream. (sigh) Boy i'd do anything to go back 10 years to that first day at Chautauqua knowing what I know now.

why you still would have to tell people u work at CHQ

 

[mdanno808]

E170 a level c sim? Never flown one but pretty sure you meant Level d. We train FO's in level D CRJ sims all the time to 100% and the QLOFT. Can't think of a reason why CHQ wouldn't do the same?

I think they do mean Level C. Level D sim's don't have any restrictions applied to them right? We used Level C sim's during our 757 training, and in order to use them, you needed either a type in a jet, or x hours of jet time, with an ATP.

 

[SizzleChest]

Embraer specifically does NOT allow flight training in the actual 170 aircraft. They had a letter cut by the govt specifically forbidding this...... all SIM or nothing

 

[BoilerUP]

Contrary to popular opinion, you CAN rent a car under 25. You'll just have to pay a small premium to do it...

My guess is the ATP mins for the 170 are just another discriminator used in screening applicants.

 

["GO AROUND"]

Why would they Build a level C sim for a brand new aircraft??? I understand the 757 being level C but not the 170.

 

[CAVOK69]

Do they let you bring your toys in the sim???

if by toys you mean 18 year old girlfriend, then.....yes they did!

 

[CAVOK69]

E170 a level c sim? Never flown one but pretty sure you meant Level d. We train FO's in level D CRJ sims all the time to 100% and the QLOFT. Can't think of a reason why CHQ wouldn't do the same?

i was told it was not certified to a level D yet, but it would be soon. this is why you had to have atp mins. Once it is level D, then the ATP mins would be dropped. This all comes from the manager of training, or one of the managers.

And it doesnt matter about previous types, when i was hired with CHQ I had a Citation Type.... they didn't care b/c I was 20. So unless it is level D, it doesn't matter unless you meet all ATP mins.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Sorry to hear you can't rent a car at the present time. No need to fret, 2-3 years will pass by before you realize it. Happy driving.

It's just that they can't afford to pay for the rental car at their pay scales.
PBR

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Why does it matter whether you get the 170 or not? Its not like you'll be paid more.