Will Obama help or hurt Fractionals

[Ralph Wiggums]

Look at Sarah Palin. She is a woman and is easily the most qualified person on either ticket.

Wow. I'm speechless. I know the post I quoted this from is seven days old, but if you believed this then (and especially now after this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg), you should have your ATP stripped and be subject to psychological evaluation by the FAA.

 

[gunfyter]

Do you also have the youtube link to Franklin Roosevelt's address on television following the 1929 Stock market crash?

I have been looking for that. :laugh:

 

[gunfyter]

Exactamundo. Which is why The Messiah is a LIAR when he says he's only going to raise taxes on those making more than $250,000

Yep...

Everyone over $102K is getting a tax increase because of removing the FICA cap.

Would be a $4200 increase for me this year....

So I vote for Obama he takes $4200 from me ... and he gives it to People in the 40% who do not pay ANY taxes in a tax credit. A tax cut for people who do not pay taxes.

You know I was going to vote for Bob Barr ... But I am starting to look at McCain a little now.

Obama and Biden should dress up in green tights and sing "We're men, we're men in tights" and dance through Sherwood Forest.

 

[G100driver]

I pay $4200 more under Obama than McCain per year.

This is due to Obama raising the cap on Social Security taxes. So if you make more than $102K ... this calculator does not include the extra SS taxes you will pay.... Which will be another 3 to 6 K per year for the average NJ captain.

Eehhhmmm, that has already taken effect. The max social security tax for 2008 is $102,000. Expect it to rise indefinately. The last tax cut I would expect in any administration is a cut in payroll taxes. Hell, even Reagan increased those!

 

[gunfyter]

Now it rises with inflation. Tomorrow it rises to infinity.

And Obama gives MY $4200... to people in a Tax rebate ... who do not pay Federal income taxes at all!

I would love to ask Mr Obama about this in a Town Hall meeting with Senator McCain. Why should I give my money to people who don't pay taxes?


I can't see voting for that.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Absolutely!! McCain will prevail!

You're dreaming, amigo. The debate was the last nail in the coffin.

People were only looking to be reassured that Obummer isn't a totally empty suit (even though I think he is) and at least looks the part. The answers were unimportant. He looked the part and will move enough wavering democrats off the fence to carry the right states.

Because of his HUGE support in the urban centers, Obama will carry the popular vote by a much wider margin than the electoral college but he will win, nonetheless.

Gunfyter, I was going to vote for Bob Barr as well and I may go back to him now since I think Obama is a lock. I also live in a "toss-up" swing state.

Every once in a while, the country needs to be reminded how ruinous high taxes AND high spending can be to the economy. We've had one without the other for the last 8 years of a RINO president and it has brought us to the brink. Add high taxes, and we'll go right off the cliff. Then, maybe in four years we'll figure it out and elect a tax-cutting, BUDGET-CUTTING, personal freedom loving, constitutionalist president AND congress and make some fundamental reform.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

You truly are an insecure idiot.. :cartman:

Um, no, that would be you. Guilty white man syndrome. You have it.

 

[GerryG]

Wow. I'm speechless. I know the post I quoted this from is seven days old, but if you believed this then (and especially now after this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg), you should have your ATP stripped and be subject to psychological evaluation by the FAA.

Ok that link didn't work, but here is a good one. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PwQdzpMdEI&feature=related

Look guys, this woman is so far out of her depth that it isn't funny anymore. If we put her one heart beat away from the Presidency (consider McCain's age), we do so at our peril.

 

[Sparse]

I would submit that many of us on the forum are union pilots and as such our own personal self interests are closely tied to our unions abilities to represent us effectively. An analysis of McCain's record, when focused specifically on his opinions with regard to unions reflects that he has been adversarial to us. Those of us who have flown him also know that he has never displayed any love for pilots. I ask that each of you consider that a vote for this man is a vote for an anti-union agenda...

Pilots are caught between a rock and a hard spot on this issue. Especially for those in private aviation and to a slightly lessor extent those in the airline industry, our jobs depend on the spending that wealthy people do. If they decide they don't need that corperate jet or that first class ticket, then there will be less jobs. If a company needs to reduce cost because taxes and government regulations have placed a burden on the bottom line, maybe the travel budget gets cut. Without jobs, unions have no reason to exist. There is no doubt that McCain has a record that would be considered anti-union. The question that needs to be asked is whether a uniion actually creates any jobs. I think the relationship that NJ and NJ pilots have is one to be envied. With that relationship, why would you care what McCain's position is on unions?

 

[CA1900]

And Obama gives MY $4200... to people in a Tax rebate ... who do not pay Federal income taxes at all!

How about this: all the Republicans' money goes to pay for the war your boy got us into, and all the Democrats' money goes to the entitlements that they got us into.

Your $4200 can go exclusively to repay the cost of one half of one second of the war.

Feel better now?

 

[skiandsurf]

How about this: all the Republicans' money goes to pay for the war your boy got us into, and all the Democrats' money goes to the entitlements that they got us into.

Your $4200 can go exclusively to repay the cost of one half of one second of the war.

Feel better now?

Since the Republicans all make money, this will get paid off evenly.

Since the Democrats are mostly "the poor", this will be paid off by the few on the top, while the majority of the pond scum get by for free.

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Now back to business taxes.

Did you know that American Airlines was once HQ'd in New York until the high taxes chased them away.

And did you know that Continental Airlines was based in CA before the high taxes chased them away.

Is there any wonder why TX is home to 3 major airlines. Hint....lower taxes.

 

[Jafo73]

How about this: all the Republicans' money goes to pay for the war your boy got us into, and all the Democrats' money goes to the entitlements that they got us into.

Your $4200 can go exclusively to repay the cost of one half of one second of the war.

Feel better now?

I'm definitely in favor of my tax money paying for defense and the war then to pay some scum sucking leech to sit on their butt, not do anything and collect a handout! Sounds like a good plan to me!

 

[gunfyter]

How about this. No tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes. And I keep my money.

 

[rettofly]

How about this. No tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes. And I keep my money.

Would this be about half of the 95% of "taxpayers" that Obama says will get a tax cut if he's elected?

I'm no expert, but this smells like a vast expansion of the Earned Income Tax Credit that sends refund checks already to a whole bunch of folks who pay no taxes to begin with. Given the income redistribution mentality of the Left, some of these folks are going to end up subject to the Alternative Minimum Tax and get an even bigger check.

 

[blueridge71]

Wow. I'm speechless. I know the post I quoted this from is seven days old, but if you believed this then (and especially now after this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg), you should have your ATP stripped and be subject to psychological evaluation by the FAA.

Show me any other candidate that has any executive experience at all. Obama and Biden have never run anything. She even has more executive experience than McCain, who only ran a Navy squadron.

I'm not going to base my vote on a 90 second soundbite. I'll take substance over style. I'll grant you that Obama is the best speaker running, but he won't have a teleprompter in the oval office.

At any rate, I'd rather have a more experienced president and a capable veep than a novice president and a more experience (but still mostly wrong) veep.

 

[blueridge71]

Since the Republicans all make money, this will get paid off evenly.

Since the Democrats are mostly "the poor", this will be paid off by the few on the top, while the majority of the pond scum get by for free.

Actually, an analysis of districts in the USA Today after the last election, showed that most wealthy tend to vote Democrat. So do most of the lower incomes. The Middle Class is solidly GOP.

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Anyone interested in video of Daniel Mudd, former FNMA CEO praising Obama and the Democrat "family."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

For those who don't know, Obama received more campaign money in four years than all except one member of Congress received in twenty years. The lone exception? Chris Dodd, Democrat and chairman of the senate banking committee. (John Kerry came in third.)

http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/07/top-senate-recipients-of-fanni.htmlhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usvG-s_Ssb0

 

[jetwash]

A heart beat away.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nokTjEdaUGg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmILZMz_d2c&feature=related


What a joke, this is not Tina Fey doing a SNL skit, it is the real thing. How sad.

I felt sorry for her after watching it.
I will feel sorry for the country if they are elected.

 

[learflyer]

All talking points and no substance. Tell us av8tor, what exactly will he change? Is $3 trillion in new spending "change?" Is infationary taxation "change?" Is bowing down to terrorist "change?" Is it "change" to give illegal aliens free health care?

Give me a break. The only change that Obama brings is skin color. Absolutely everything else is the same old tax and spend crap. We don't need more spending, we need cuts and in a big way.

amen amen!

 

[Bulldog Price]

I'm not a big fan of Bush, but I think Obama takes the cake when it comes to sounding like an idiot in this town hall.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omHUsRTYFAU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIdbYjmbFzo

 

[gunfyter]

Neither one is anything close to an idiot.

Obama is even more impressively intelligent than he seems ince you investigate his life story.

I believe his exceptional abilities were noticed by the right persons at an early age and he was hand-picked and groomed for certain purposes. Much like Joe Kennedy groomed his sons, except Obama did not come from quite the same position of advantage.

When he left home for college ... there were people who were waiting for him. To mentor him.

He is no idiot. He is exceptional. Identified as such like 14 year old pitching prospects are identified by pro scouts. Like children of the same age with exceptional mathematical ability are identified as prospects for top academic careers at elite schools.