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jetblue320 said:
Well, I wouldn't consider a 20 million annual loss a "ton" of dough. Some other the other airlines lose close to that in a week or less. It's a bummer regardless of the amount but I seriously doubt if the company is going to ask for give backs or take any back. But, thanks for the advice and heads up!

:eek:

C yaaaa

Okay, I'll give you that, but it wasn't $20 million, it was over $40 mil, with more loses to come. You may say no, we'll talk again when the first quarter results come out. :0
 
HighSpeedClimb said:
Okay, I'll give you that, but it wasn't $20 million, it was over $40 mil, with more loses to come. You may say no, we'll talk again when the first quarter results come out. :0

I think it was $40 mil for the quarter and $20 mil for the year.
 
ALPA or Seahawks, who'se the biggest excuse maker?

Dave Siegel said:
Hi, it's Dave! It's so encouraging to see that some people like IronCityBlue really take everything that management tells them at face value. You should, as we are truly superior in intellect and vision.

For the record, I'm very upset at the conspiracy to keep my beloved Seahawks from winning that football trophy. It's a crime, and I vow to have the cheaters punished and have the trophy restored to Mr. Holmgren, a man who was the character of a great leader. He is truly a class act.

There's a difference between face value and track record. You can take JetBlue management's track record and put it up against ALPA's during the last 6 years anyday. But you knew that.

And yes, Holmgren was a class act. Until he literally pouted on national television, like a 2 year old about to go to time out. Yeah Mr. Holmgren, it was that barely breaking the plane call that lost it for you. Not the missed field goals, the dropped passes, Alexander's averge performance, the turnover, the pathetic inability to convert on third down (something the Steelers also suffered from) and the fact that during the biggest game of his life he was only able to lead his troops to 10 measly points.

Career wise, he's a very good coach and I wish him well. This year he made a tool of himself whining more about bad (and close but good) calls when he couldn't get it done on the field in so many ways.

If only he settled down before he embarassed himself, and asked What Would Favre Do?
 
First, lets look at "longevity" and how it relates to costs and pilot pay.

A quick look at the JB pilot list yields @ 1500 pilot......at $3 bucks per hour longevity per hour and 85 hours per month.....

My public math yields a $ 4.6 million/year in increased pilot costs. A very simplistic look at it as you have FO's upgrading and such, so to really hammer home how trivial it is, lets double it to $ 9.2 million dollars. WOW you say. Wrong.....that equates to 46 cents per passenger at 20 million customers per year.

If I were JB management, I would fire the top 200 pilots to avoid this pay hike and hire some more new hires. LOL!

A350
 
HighSpeedClimb said:
Okay, I'll give you that, but it wasn't $20 million, it was over $40 mil, with more loses to come. You may say no, we'll talk again when the first quarter results come out. :0

Yes, $46m for the quarter is correct. $20m for the year 2005.

I am not in denial about the prospect of losing money in the upcoming quarter(s). I don't like it, but then who would?

C yaaaa
 
JB Bus Drvr said:
I really wish we would do this. It's been proven that the CAA rules work. But enter the alphabet groups (ALPA, ATA, etc.) and you've got a fight that will last for years. One carrier at a time, then they can't do anything.

You can't possibly find a more difficult way for airlines to track crews and in particular track reservists. Leave it to the Brit's to make duty regs as complicated as possible. The unions have very little to say about this. Take a look for yourself, can you imagine that additional man power required to stay with the guidlines of CAA CAP 371

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/CAP371.PDF

No, the unions would be for this because it would put more numbers on the seniority lists. The airlines would oppose this.
 

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