Why all the hoopla about CAL hiring?

[Rhoid]

Why are all you people beside yourselves with joy that CAL is accepting resumes? I didn't see anywhere near this level of giddyness when UPS announced they were going to hire or about FedEx's continued hiring. Does this mean that the vast majority of you would rather get on with CAL vs. FedEx or UPS? If so, you are a fool. CAL is nowhere near out of the woods and will probably have to come back to the employees for more cuts. You would have to be a moron to want to be on the bottom of CAL's list. But they do fly passengers and you can walk around the terminal in your mainline uniform and tell the girls and your buds that you fly for a major!

 

[Stinkbug]

....? Do you guys hear something?

 

[kevdog]

....? Do you guys hear something?

No, but I smell BBQ on the grill!

 

[Cardinal]

I'll bite.

Current Position: working my way towards a major

The pot doth call the kettle black. For some of us Continental is more readily attainable for various reasons. ie, we didn't fly fast jets in the military for 7000 hours and have an entire squadron worth of contacts at FedEx. My not so bold prediction is that the U.S. economy will grow considerably over the next 10 years. Continental is the best positioned of the legacies to take advantage of that growth.

And there was plenty o' hoopla when FedEx's window opened a year or so back. Go pound sand.

 

[kevdog]

BBQ sure tastes good!

 

[RSRVWINDSURFR]

kevdog,

Nice Avatar

Now, what were we talking about again?....

 

[kevdog]

kevdog,

Nice Avatar

Now, what were we talking about again?....

Thanks, I think we were talking about BBQ.

 

[Lear70]

Exactly, Cardinal.

UPS requires three internal letters of rec - I have one.

FedEx requires two or three internal letters of rec and a sponsor who has PERSONALLY flown with you. I have one letter of rec and have lost touch with two guys I used to fly the 727 with at our previous, now closed, airline.

Continental doesn't require any of the above, although I doubt very many will get through the door without at least one if not several internal LOR's but at least it's POSSIBLE, whereas at FedEx or UPS it's NOT.

I do remember a bunch of people pretty excited about FedEx (if not as many about Big Brown), as well as SWA hiring news about 18 months ago. Personally, I'd take any one of them, and add jetBlue to the list as well - or maybe I should just fly the CRJ for the rest of my career?

As an aside, the CAL app took about 3 hours and wanted some times I hadn't had easily available on the road so I had to wait until I came home:

- how much simulated instrument did I have,
- how much PIC and SIC simulator time I had (two separate entries and hard to find because I don't keep them in my normal flight time totals even though most of it was full-motion Level D),
- how much cross-country I had (have no clue after flying commercially for 10 years), and so on and so forth.

Good luck to all!

 

[kevdog]

Does anyone else wonder were Rhoid really works?

 

[Z_Pilot]

I think all the hoopla is the fact that CAL is the first legacy to hire since 911...perhaps an indication that the industry has reached the bottom (or will soon) and that better times are gradually coming.

Z


(I agree that CAL is risky, however, I would rather be on the front side of their hiring wave...they have many retirements coming....anything is better than where I am now)

 

[FlyChicaga]

He does have a point in a way though. I'm waiting for all the "I've wanted to work at CAL my whole life!"ers to come out of the woodwork, just like we've seen with UPS, FedEx, SWA, and JetBlue lately. Not to say there isn't people who have wanted to work at CAL their whole life.

 

[I.P. Freley]

Thanks, I think we were talking about BBQ.

Had Mickelbob's three times in the last two months...

I prefer the sliced pork to actually having ribs, though. They have awesome cole slaw, too.

 

[Lear70]

Does anyone else wonder were Rhoid really works?

He doesn't. Mommy and Daddy support him while he attends the CMR academy and flames here when he gets bored with his "intellectually superior" homework.

But he's good for a few laughs after a few beers...

 

[aa73]

Why are all you people beside yourselves with joy that CAL is accepting resumes? I didn't see anywhere near this level of giddyness when UPS announced they were going to hire or about FedEx's continued hiring. Does this mean that the vast majority of you would rather get on with CAL vs. FedEx or UPS? If so, you are a fool. CAL is nowhere near out of the woods and will probably have to come back to the employees for more cuts. You would have to be a moron to want to be on the bottom of CAL's list. But they do fly passengers and you can walk around the terminal in your mainline uniform and tell the girls and your buds that you fly for a major!

I think for the majority of us educated pilots, it boils down to a lot more than "looking good in your uniform in the terminal", etc. Some pilots may not want the lifestyle of a Fedex/UPS pilot. Some don't like the bases. Whatever, there are a variety of reasons why we choose certain airlines over others.

I think all the hoopla you're reading is centered around the fact that the majors/legacies are finally starting to s-l-o-w-l-y turn around and make their way towards eventual hiring. Given the huge #s of furloughed pilots, the more hiring the better.

Also, remember that at the end of the last four decades, airlines were in the hiring mode for a good four years.. which translated to hundreds of seniority #s. If you are one of the first in at CAL, for example, you could potentially get 1000-2000 guys hired after you during the hiring. Take a look at AA, when they resumed hiring in '98 the first ones hired ended up with more than 2000 pilots below them when 9/11 hit.

Don't be so quick to knock opportunity at CAL (and eventually all of the other legacies, which will be hiring towards the end of this decade.) In this industry things can change for the good or the bad very quickly, it is all a crapshoot. Might as well take advantage of the hiring.

73

 

[outtahere]

Shouldn't you at the very least have a job with an airline to make a post on here?

 

[jbDC9]

You would have to be a moron to want to be on the bottom of CAL's list.

Oh man, now that's just rich... the biggest a$$hole on the board calling everyone else morons?? Good stuff.

...you can walk around the terminal in your mainline uniform and tell the girls and your buds that you fly for a major!

Hey, douchebag, isn't that your exact goal in life? A major?? You blather on endlessly about it, and your profile pretty much says it all. Somehow I see you doing that exact same thing trying to impress everyone and telling them that you fly for a MAJOR!!!

Tool.

 

[kevdog]

Come on, Rhoid will never work for a major, or a company like FedEx or UPS.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Shouldn't you at the very least have a job with an airline to make a post on here?

He told me in a PM that he was "in the hiring pool at UPS". What a joke. He obviously didn't know who he was talking to, since I know exactly who is and isn't in the hiring pool at UPS. How I know is not important. What else I DO know is that this guy is a laugh a minute.

It's just that everyone is laughing AT him and he is too stupid to know it.

 

[jbDC9]

Then again, somehow I think Mr Preparation H already has a gig, probably a freight dog, who knows at what outfit.... but he just likes to stir the pot. Notice how he throws out some pile of flamebait crap, then disappears. Maybe he sits and jerks off while reading what he stirred up.... note that he doesn't come back to refute his detractors.

So, it's either that, or he really is just a huge "Academy" fag that really doesn't have a clue.

Either way, get a life.

 

[FL717]

Why are all you people beside yourselves with joy that CAL is accepting resumes? I didn't see anywhere near this level of giddyness when UPS announced they were going to hire or about FedEx's continued hiring. Does this mean that the vast majority of you would rather get on with CAL vs. FedEx or UPS? If so, you are a fool. CAL is nowhere near out of the woods and will probably have to come back to the employees for more cuts. You would have to be a moron to want to be on the bottom of CAL's list. But they do fly passengers and you can walk around the terminal in your mainline uniform and tell the girls and your buds that you fly for a major!

Slow day at school?

A Major Airline announces plans to hire and this is your contribution to the news?

Pretty pathetic thread for you to start if you ask me....