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Whoever keeps trying to take their personal crap through the KCM ckpoints......

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turbodriver

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Cut it out!!! Before you *uck it up for the rest of us! This is one of the best things to come along in years and the feds will be glad to shut it down if we give them a reason to.....
 
I don't see what the big deal is. All you have to do is remove the name of ONE dip$hit from the list every time there's an offense. Absolutely no need, whatsoever, to punish everyone.

Oh wait.......TSA is in charge.
Disregard.
Common sense is not part of the protocol.
 
I was thinking the same thing. It's going to take one IDIOT to go to a gun show or something, and think he's going to get away with sneaking something through the KCM, then have it exposed, and POOF, there this sweet deal goes away for all of us.
 
Snapshot said:
I don't see what the big deal is. All you have to do is remove the name of ONE dip$hit from the list every time there's an offense. Absolutely no need, whatsoever, to punish everyone.

Oh wait.......TSA is in charge.
Disregard.
Common sense is not part of the protocol.
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Great idea and so true man
 
You ever overnight in Detroit? The Glock is essential equipment!
 
Snapshot said:
I don't see what the big deal is. All you have to do is remove the name of ONE dip$hit from the list every time there's an offense. Absolutely no need, whatsoever, to punish everyone.

Oh wait.......TSA is in charge.
Disregard.
Common sense is not part of the protocol.
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Don't blame the TSA, it's pilots screwing it up.
 
Define "personal crap"... I carry all sorts of things with me on a trip. Are you referring to things you wouldn't normally be able to carry through a checkpoint?

Can't imagine that being a huge issue... I mean if you take it through that checkpoint, the next overnight as soon as you have to go through regular security, they're going to confiscate it (or worse), so what exactly are you referring to?
 
Define "personal crap"... I carry all sorts of things with me on a trip. Are you referring to things you wouldn't normally be able to carry through a checkpoint?
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The info that we got is that the personal items that are being carried are items that belong to spouses, children, and other traveling companions.
 
Things like cases of motor oil. You need a case of motor oil on your layover? At least one pilot thought he did.
 
On the XJT crackpipe there was a poster complaining about not being permitted to wear his street clothes through a KCM checkpoint....Within 24 hours the company (or was it the union?) sent out a memo telling people to follow the protocol or risk putting the program in jeopardy.

I agree...don't screw this up!
 
What does it matter....I never had a problem with the old way...it takes as long as it takes...never really cut the line...time to transit security is not my problem....I dont think pilots should be exempt anyway....to many odd balls
 
tico said:
What does it matter....I never had a problem with the old way...it takes as long as it takes...never really cut the line...time to transit security is not my problem....I dont think pilots should be exempt anyway....to many odd balls
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It matters alot to me. I mind the old way. It's an unnecessary pain in the ass.
 
It's amazing that supposedly intelligent, educated and skilled people, responsible for hundreds of lives, need to be told to comply or forfeit the privilege.
 
tico said:
What does it matter....I never had a problem with the old way...it takes as long as it takes...never really cut the line...time to transit security is not my problem....I dont think pilots should be exempt anyway....to many odd balls
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Good. You can stay in the regular line. Will make getting through the KCM checkpoint at a large airline's domicile much quicker... ;)

Getting through the line in MCO takes anywhere from 20-25 minutes. I kid you not. It's ridiculous and when I have a 5:30 a.m. report, an hour drive in, and have to fly a 12 hour day across 3 time zones, I really would appreciate the extra 15 minutes of sleep.

KCM would be the best thing to happen to that airport and it's overstaffed TSA regime. If someone screws up that program by being a frakking idiot about what they can carry through or not on their own leisure travel, even if they're taking their family with them on a trip, then THEY need to lose the privilege, not the entire professional airline pilot as a group.

Or we could just tar and feather the offenders... :)
 
Lear70 said:
If someone screws up that program by being a frakking idiot about what they can carry through or not on their own leisure travel, even if they're taking their family with them on a trip, then THEY need to lose the privilege, not the entire professional airline pilot as a group.

Or we could just tar and feather the offenders... :)
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Agreed but remember its the federal imperial govt. They'll panic and put out one of those "effective immediately" memos.
 
tico said:
What does it matter....I never had a problem with the old way...it takes as long as it takes...never really cut the line...time to transit security is not my problem....I dont think pilots should be exempt anyway....to many odd balls
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The problem I have is most rampers, gate agents, ops agents, and other ground workers don't go through security. So they can carry anything they want to work and never get screened because they have a SIDA badge, yet the crew still goes through security. I have never understood that. I have seen some rampers (all carriers) that look rough. They look and act like prison is in their future yet they can be trusted. Me, on the other hand, who has a whole career to loose and will have the airplane under my control can't be trusted WTF. TSA is a joke.
 
Also, KCM is not for non revving. You must be in uniform and on duty to use it. I know of a couple pilots in hot water for using it while not on duty.
 
Lear70 said:
Depends. If I'm commuting to/from work and had the option to use it, I would.
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You have to be on duty. You aren't on duty while commuting. TSA can match KCM with your airline and random audits have caught a few already You don't want to be the next to get caught.
 

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