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Who cares about sh!$$y RAL buying F9

SRJ

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...they will get the boot from the mainline carriers they are feeding and eventually end up like Indy Air, a regional trying to fly Airbus' and play mainline pilot
 

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...they will get the boot from the mainline carriers they are feeding and eventually end up like Indy Air, a regional trying to fly Airbus' and play mainline pilot

If you worked for them you would care !!!!!
 

Cornelius

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SRJ, sounds like you care if you are willing to start a whole new thread about the subject. Kinda contradicting yourself.
 

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Anyone with career aspirations greater than an E170 or 190 at regional wages for a domestic airline should care about this.
 

Popeye0537

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Anyone with career aspirations greater than an E170 or 190 at regional wages for a domestic airline should care about this.

Then why would you take a job that pays substandard wages in the first place?(Lynx) How are you helping the industry let alone your career aspirations by dragging it down.....take a stance and quit.
O wait, then how will you aquire the minimums required to work for a major? Kind of a delema you've got there, keep bringing the industry down until a major job is within reach. By that time flying that nice new Q400 will equal the pay of some major 737 FO's.
 

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I hear DAL management is pissed, and has lawyers looking into how they can drop Republic as a Connection carrier. They are basically taking money we pay them to buy and airline that will compete with us.
 

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Then why would you take a job that pays substandard wages in the first place?(Lynx) How are you helping the industry let alone your career aspirations by dragging it down.....take a stance and quit.
O wait, then how will you aquire the minimums required to work for a major? Kind of a delema you've got there, keep bringing the industry down until a major job is within reach. By that time flying that nice new Q400 will equal the pay of some major 737 FO's.

Lynx is a regional airline and doesn't pretend to be something else. When you're willing to have a constructive conversation get back to me. Until thing, it's not worth my time to argue with you over this. Good day sir.
 
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I hear DAL management is pissed, and has lawyers looking into how they can drop Republic as a Connection carrier. They are basically taking money we pay them to buy and airline that will compete with us.


Sounds good to me. I hope UAL does the same thing. Let's see UAX (RAH) cancels flight from den to "xyz." No problem they can take them on f9 the airline they own that competes with the flight THEY just cancelled. HMMM
 

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I hear DAL management is pissed, and has lawyers looking into how they can drop Republic as a Connection carrier. They are basically taking money we pay them to buy and airline that will compete with us.

That's good news.
 

UnstableAviator

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I'm a simple pilot, but come on people, CEO's aren't mouth-breathing knuckle draggers. They are all on cordial terms with each other and its not like Bedford woke up a few months ago and thought "I think I'll bet the entire company today". He knows something we don't, be it UAL's financial ill-health, TPG, Delta, future merger with JetBlue, any number of possibilities.

No doubt these exact issues were discussed with DL/CO/US/UA/AMR before anything was ever made public. BB and Co don't take CHQ from being a dirtball jetstream/Saab operator to buying two majors in 10 years by being idiots.
 

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Lynx is a regional airline and doesn't pretend to be something else. When you're willing to have a constructive conversation get back to me. Until thing, it's not worth my time to argue with you over this. Good day sir.

So it's not the seats...but rather the method of propulsion that you have a problem with....By the way, Republic has far better rates than Lynx...
 

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...they will get the boot from the mainline carriers they are feeding and eventually end up like Indy Air, a regional trying to fly Airbus' and play mainline pilot

What? You seem to care a lot...
 

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I hear DAL management is pissed, and has lawyers looking into how they can drop Republic as a Connection carrier. They are basically taking money we pay them to buy and airline that will compete with us.

They durn sure had better be concerned.... You DAL guys are too easy. Mgmt is bashing RJs with one hand (just to distract your focus,) while the other hand is quietly helping Republic out.....

Just think what type of "downward pressure" this will provide to wages industrywide. Republic is proving that they can easily staff an airline like Midwest (and soon Frontier) with low-paid pilots-and the planes fly along just fine. The real kicker is that DAL is subsidizing Republic to conduct this little "experiment."

-Don't fool yourselves for a second-this is a horrible deal for the entire industry, and DAL mgmt. is loving every second of it.
 

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...they will get the boot from the mainline carriers they are feeding and eventually end up like Indy Air, a regional trying to fly Airbus' and play mainline pilot

You sir are the wedge, the simplest tool of all. Go back to your parents basement where you live. @#$%stain on the fabric of life. You suck.
 

hockeypilot44

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They durn sure had better be concerned.... You DAL guys are too easy. Mgmt is bashing RJs with one hand (just to distract your focus,) while the other hand is quietly helping Republic out.....

Just think what type of "downward pressure" this will provide to wages industrywide. Republic is proving that they can easily staff an airline like Midwest (and soon Frontier) with low-paid pilots-and the planes fly along just fine. The real kicker is that DAL is subsidizing Republic to conduct this little "experiment."

-Don't fool yourselves for a second-this is a horrible deal for the entire industry, and DAL mgmt. is loving every second of it.

I agree with you on this. I think Delta is helping Republic behind-the-scenes big time. Delta/NWA owned like 40-something percent of Midwest not even a year ago. Anyone who doesn't agree with your statement is naive. That is what scares me about DALPA.
 

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This is a big deal and is a totally different game than ACA. First most of the Connection contracts are totally different than they were in 2001. Fact is that most of us are looking at the definition of a domestic air carrier and if RAH is in fact in violation. Fact is that it would be gray at best.
RAH wants to join Star. Well, that is a totally different game then too. If they join they get a JV. Scope work around in a nut shell. It also does a few other things. They sell their own code, and the game changes again.

The problem with this is, it will bite the hand that has fed them, but they are being very smart about it. I do not see them taking a 318 et al and running it from say MKE to ATL. The DEN-ATL route was there for F9, but putting the jet on a competing route with an airline they have a DCI or other connection agreement would be suicide. They will wait to do that after they are out of the woods. As it stands now, I think that they have everyone where they want em. You really have a thin legal basis for canceling a contract. They know it and they know you know it. Brian will be very careful, not to hurt these deals too soon.
DAL had to have knowledge that RAH was going to buy MEH. Thinking otherwise is foolish. Either way, RAH need to decide if they are going to be a big airline or a small one. They will not be able to compete with the likes of DAL, UAUA. WN, CAL and AAI with those 170's. It is a OK jet, but people will go else where. It is time for RAH and Brian Bedford to make a move or lie down. He has a up side and a very steep downside to any move he makes.
 

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You sir are the wedge, the simplest tool of all. Go back to your parents basement where you live. @#$%stain on the fabric of life. You suck.


-Just keep worrying about all the evil RJs flown by DCI... Just keep right on being distracted from the real threats-like a good little minion.
 
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