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The answer is easy and obvious

Unless you are very uninformed or misinformed, the decision is a no-brainer. If you can get to work and live with the NetJets domiciles, go to NetJets. If you can't get to work at the NetJets domiciles but you live close enough to one of the 25 CS domiciles, go there. While the 7/7 base salary is slightly higher at CS, the overall compensation at NJA is far and away the best.
 
ashaman said:
Unless you are very uninformed or misinformed, the decision is a no-brainer. If you can get to work and live with the NetJets domiciles, go to NetJets. If you can't get to work at the NetJets domiciles but you live close enough to one of the 25 CS domiciles, go there. While the 7/7 base salary is slightly higher at CS, the overall compensation at NJA is far and away the best.


This is good solid, sound advice. Commuting will seriously diminish the quality of life associated with any job. I did it for two years and it is horrible. Don't try to think ten years down the road which choice will be better. This works well on Wall Street , not in this industry. Go with what will give you immediate satisfaction TODAY and make your life easier and more enjoyable.
 
tailhookah said:
Net jets....

much better rules... seniority based system (read no bubba club) and rules to have the company pay you for your time and effort...not just a salary like you'll get at CS. You don't get reimbursed for tips you give to the fbo's and many other incentives that require the company to pay you when you get screwed around w/..... meaning long days or not getting home on time... you also have a union looking out for you... your PM at CS will always cave into what jon (cheif pilot) wants to do... like I said you have no say at CS...the reason why you don't hear much on this board is most guys are scared to say anything for fear of reprisals.... cs is a great place to be for a few years but netjets will be a career move for you...cs is not. you will get so fed up w/ their b/s that you will wish you went to netjets w/in a few months... cs wants limo drivers...not pilots.

tail

Glad you're gone...now just keep your mouth shut you trader.
 
ashaman said:
Unless you are very uninformed or misinformed, the decision is a no-brainer. If you can get to work and live with the NetJets domiciles, go to NetJets. If you can't get to work at the NetJets domiciles but you live close enough to one of the 25 CS domiciles, go there. While the 7/7 base salary is slightly higher at CS, the overall compensation at NJA is far and away the best.

Well stated. As a follow-up question, is the schedule at CS only 7/7? I know NJ has the 7/7 and an 18-day flying reserve also.
 
And don't forget

wolfpackpilot said:
I believe competition is a good thing in a free market economy, unfortunately for others NetJets got the head start on everyone and without some type of major catastrophe (i.e. a labor work stoppage, corporate fraud) they will never be stopped.

Don't forget a little thing like, oh...I don't know, making a profit.
 
NetJets (I or A) for me...

The resumes went in to both NJI and NJA last week. From my perspective both companies look great. NJI is my preference because of the mission; I've spent most of my adult life flying overseas and really enjoyed that. NJA has a great contract, fleet, and the opportunity to do some international flying in some of the larger birds.


Flex does some international flying stuff but we’d have to move to Dallas. A buddy started there in December and he is enjoying it but they had to sell the house here. Likewise on the move with CS since we’re are about 30 min outside the 120 min circle. We need to stay put for about the next 2.5 years so that was the deal breaker. With NJI it’s a no brainer; with NJA, even if I have to drive or fly SWA to DAL every other week, that’s manageable and predicable.


Looks like there are just too many issues at Flops to even consider them.


So for me it came down to: not having to move; first year pay; variety & type of flying; opportunity to fly international; other bennies; equipment; and of course profitability. As always there are plusses and minuses with any job, but from the outside looking in - I think both NetJets companies beat all others hands down and I be more than happy at either.

Just my 2 cents.

So, waiting on the applications now; hoping to see you guys in training next January.

Best of luck to the original poster and to everyone else,
VVJM265
 
MorePilotPay said:
Don't forget a little thing like, oh...I don't know, making a profit.

NetJets is under the Berkshire Hathaway umbrella, giving a great degree of latitude in short term strategy to ensure long term profitability (read: DEEP pockets).

We have the resources to fight the battles (ie. be in the red while dominance is asserted), so that the ultimate war is won (ie. ending up with majority market share and brand name recognition).

That's my take on the situation.

That and a five dollar bill will get you a coffee at starbucks :)
 
Kikuchiyo said:
Well stated. As a follow-up question, is the schedule at CS only 7/7? I know NJ has the 7/7 and an 18-day flying reserve also.

That's correct. CS is a 7/7 schedule only. NJA has both 7/7 (15.2 days/month) and a reserve schedule (18 days/month). However, NJA does not require training on days off. I understand (I may be wrong, no first-hand knowledge) that CS sometimes requires travel to/from training and/or training on days off.
Of course, the NJA 18-day (aka reserve) schedule pays significantly more than the 7/7 at either company.
 

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