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There are two camps in the regional avionics world, Collins Proline people and Honeywell Primus people. To which system is better is very subjective and I am very biased toward Honeywell.

The Cadillac of Corporate Jets the Gulfstream G4 and G5 as well as the Citation X all employ Honeywell Primus and Epic Primus avionics suites. I think Collins is crap but that’s just my opinion.



Your only hope for a permanent 1VE fix is mod’ed HECS sensors. I suggest you tell your airline to preorder them based on the summer launch. They will also be more expensive around $4800 each, so they have essentially raped you without lubricant; you’re fundamentally paying them to fix their own problem.

Remember you have 6 sensors total, a + HEC sensor in the 1VE and a - HEC sensor in the wing leading edge/APU Tail Cone. I suggest matching the units with APU installed that comes to a grand total of......$28,800 each aircraft and times 33 aircraft $953,000. Include downtime, maintenance costs and lost revenue and I estimate your company will be out around $3.5 Million. Can you feel it sliding in your backside yet???

TechRep
 
tech Rep, you make it sound so nice.

Same guy who commented on the avionics also say the CRJ is a far superior aircraft. Ok, depends what you are talking about. The CRJ cannot hang in the short hop CVG market ( if they could, why dosen't Comair run those routes? Or for those who like the mix up the connection carriers arguement why not CHQ then? Why would Delta put up with the issues with the 328? ) They like it, thats why. I'll take the Dojet on a route under 200mi any day. The RJ obviously has higher cruise speeds, more seats, higher service ceiling, but whats left? The cabin sucks, hands down. I'm 5'11" and I can't even take a leak in the bathroom while standing up straight! The pax windows suck, the seats suck, Canadair should have just removed the airstairs and thrown a ladder out there ( weight savings )because I feel like thats what i'm going up when I enter that cabin, steep!
The Dojet climbs like a raped ape, rarley has overweight issues ( BOS-JFK, 4500lbs of fuel, full pax, and lots of those "international bags") it becomes a weight and balance issue rather than a MTOW issue. How many 328 crews out of BOS have done that route and see the Proxy sys fail on taxi out? So tail heavy the NLG WOW switch contacts no longer make contact. The jet takes a beating. 10+ cycles a day. Thats 10 times the engines achieve T/O pwr. 10 landings, numerous APU starts and stops, weather from the mid-west to the hot and humid south, to the hellish north east corridor. Remote parking in BOS is sometimes right next to the harbor, yup that salt water sure is good for them. I know nothing at all about Skyways, but compaire our operation to theirs, and ask yourselves if they really could just take them and make it work? Like I said, its taken 3 years to get this far.
 
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TechRep,

AWESOME HOMEPAGE for the DORNIER!!!!

I would love to get my hands on the OFFICIAL 328-300 spec. manual (with all the "pretty" pictures). The "shriner" manual $ucks....

Boeing should have purchased the 728...what a waste...

Also, great pictures of the various systems...wish we had more people like you at ACA...

I've been looking for some technical "cut-away" drawings for the 328 jet...did anyone ever produce them... (possibly Airliners magazine)? It's very difficult to find anything about our poor neglected bird...(stickers, models etc)
 
IMO D'Long will produce the 728-200 and Envoy 7 in Germany, then slowly begin to pull production cells over to China. The Chinese will cry high production costs in Germany and the inability to remain competitive with Bombardier and Embraer. The Chinese will pull all of the production activity away from Germany until they are left with only product Support, Marketing and Sales.

Since Dornier has a history of substandard customer support, they will screw that up as well and it will probably be moved to France or the United States. Did you know that Dornier was last in customer support behind two defunct OEM's? BAE and Fokker.....

The Germans will then be the bitches for the Chinese selling and supporting a now Chinese aircraft, designed by the them. The Germans sold away their last remaining aircraft manufacturing company for that there is no excuse.

This is only my opinion of course but a very intimate opinion with an inside perspective. If you would like we can start a thread about this and my feelings....LOL

See my EBAY sale for rare Do728 Specification CD.

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TechRep
 
Skyway will get the Dojets

The chief pilots are telling Comair pilots in the recurrent grounds that the DoJets are going to Skyway. They said that Comair would have gotten them if nobody else wanted them, but that Skyway wants them pretty bad, so Delta's gonna let them have them.

They said a month ago Comair was actively pursuing the Dojets to gain the flying and replace them with RJs slowly, but now Comair won't get them at all.

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Jet
 
I dont want to be a told ya so but told ya so.

TechRep
 
i wouldn't be surprised if the Dojets go to Skyway, but just because it came out of a chief's mouth doesn't mean much. i've heard DFW was a lock for a base, then ATL was a lock for a base, just to name a few...

it's all a crapshoot until the planes go somewhere....
 
I have heard the rumor about Skyway too.

So, if this happens and you are a junior DoJet FO for ACA, should you now be preparing to rent an apartment in MKE in the coming 6-12 months? In other words, will the junior DoJet guys have little-to-no choice in the matter - is it adios to Independence Air? Will they have any ability to eventually fly for Indy Air?
 
I would like to remind everyone that if this happened tommorrow, it would take a full year minimum to transfer the entire fleet.

TechRep
 
I don't get all of the emphsis on the junior Dojet F/O's. Like Techrep says, it wouldn't happen over night. Also, there may a wet lease to look at. That would aid in transition. Also, if there were layoffs the junior guys on the 41's would not be immune. The biggest problem is gonna be the transition to Indy, and a wet lease to whoever would greatly help. The crews CANNOT be sold with the aircraft, but like I said, a wet lease is more than possible. I'd be just as worried if I was a junior 41 guy, maybe even more so. Atleast the junior 328 guys may just be looking at an assignment with the Dojet until training slots in the RJ open up. What do the real junior 41 guys have?
 
frjmx328 said:
What do the real junior 41 guys have?

That all depends on the ACA contract. I suppose a good start would be to look at the merger and fragmentation as well as the furlough sections of the ACA PWA.
 
FDJ2 said:
That all depends on the ACA contract. I suppose a good start would be to look at the merger and fragmentation as well as the furlough sections of the ACA PWA.

Merger?

Jobear
 

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