When to start looking ahead to the ATP stage?

BoDEAN

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What point does one begin studying for the ATP Knowledge Test?
 

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I just recieved my book and software yesterday. I would like to have the written done in the next few months. At my current pace, I will be taking the practical towards the end of next summer.
 

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When I did mine 11 years ago, you coudn't even take the written until you had the ATP hours met and 1st class medical in hand. Then you had to go to the FSDO to get your logbooks checked over, and written authorization from the FAA to take the test. Is that still the case?

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Sorry BoDEAN, I read the bold message subject text and didn't pay too much attention to the body of the message. But I still wouldn't change my answer much. I've got ~1275 TT and I am beginning to study for the ATP written which I would like to take in/around February.
 

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LAXSaabdude said:
When I did mine 11 years ago, you coudn't even take the written until you had the ATP hours met and 1st class medical in hand. Then you had to go to the FSDO to get your logbooks checked over, and written authorization from the FAA to take the test. Is that still the case?

LAXSaabdude.
Hmmmm, not sure. I checked the beginning of the Gleim book where it says "Authorization to take the Pilot Knowledge Test" and it makes no mention of that. All it says is that you must be at least 21 yrs old.
 

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LAXSaabdude said:
When I did mine 11 years ago, you coudn't even take the written until you had the ATP hours met and 1st class medical in hand. Then you had to go to the FSDO to get your logbooks checked over, and written authorization from the FAA to take the test. Is that still the case?

LAXSaabdude.
this is no longer the case, i did mine about 2 years ago.
 

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BoDEAN said:
What point does one begin studying for the ATP Knowledge Test?
about 2-3 weeks before you plan on taking the test. Most of it should be a review aside form the 121/135 regs. Those dang load pallet questions are annoying. The XC questions for a 747 were also a joy to calculate.
 

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BoDEAN said:
What point does one begin studying for the ATP Knowledge Test?
Whenever you really want to.

Even if you don't have the hours to take the practical, you can get the written out of the way. If you're looking to get on with a regional, it helps to have the written passed. Some require it before even being hired. They usually use questions from this test during the written part of the interview too.

I'd recommend the Gleim book and software. I studied it for a few weeks and got a 99. The software helps you get through questions quicker, but the book is more practical for the charts and graphs. Much easier to read and interpolate from.

There are some formulas you'll need to memorize. You can PM me and I'll send them to you. They're on my home cpu. I can't access them now.

Also, study EVERY CHAPTER! Except for the regs.
Whether you're taking the 135 or 121 you'll get questions on 135/121 aircraft/perofrmance/IFR trips from both regs.
Although they're supposed to be separated, they never seem to be. You just don't need to study the 135 regs if taking 121 and vice versa. On my 121 almost all of my questions were from the 135 section.
 

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I second the Gleim software and book, took me about two weeks of hardcore reading and clicking to feel comfortable.
I started studying right after hitting 1000 total and it helped a lot during the two interviews I've had so far.
 

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NYCPilot said:
You just don't need to study the 135 regs if taking 121 and vice versa. On my 121 almost all of my questions were from the 135 section.
?...huh??
 

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Do most take the 135 or the 121 test? (that question is directed to those who haven't flown much 135 or any 121)
 

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nosehair said:
Originally Posted by NYCPilot
You just don't need to study the 135 regs if taking 121 and vice versa. On my 121 almost all of my questions were from the 135 section.


?...huh??






What I meant was that if you're taking the 121 don't study the 135 Regs. and vice versa. For all other chapters, there is supposed to be "135" or "121" IFR flights, aircraft and performance questions. Study all of these except the sections purely on the regs.

On my 121 test I ended up getting more 135 aircraft, performance and IFR trips than the 121 version of it. Theoretically, I should have had 121 stuff instead.

I mostly studied the 121 and just before taking the test looked over the 135 stuff. All B-1900 questions and 135 IFR trips were on my exam.
 

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I did the ALLATP one day written prep. I DID study the W&B / flight planning questions with all of the long math before going there, however. One day, wizz, bang, done, over. Got a 90 and that's amazing for a moron like myself! Best 300 bucks I ever spent!
 

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By software, do you mean the practice tests you take on your computer? I downloaded the software for my commerical some time ago. It worked well.
My question is, what is the benefit of having the GLEIM book, and the cdrom? Is there a recommened way to study with both?
 

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I'd just get the software if I were to do it all over again. I just guessed on all of the long x-c calculations.
I took the 121 version and passed with an 86.
 
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