Vacancy 11-07 is out
Yaaay! Prop FO openings only. Pay cut, here I come.
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Vacancy 11-07 is out
Yaaay! Prop FO openings only. Pay cut, here I come.
Give me a break.
Seriously, your question was when does the list become effective. The answer is in that paragraph I quoted for you. Vacancies are open after the ISL is "announced". It's been announced, so the vacancies are open. If management can't do that, then they will have to compensate (money, days off, make a deal with ALPA) those Mesaba pilots that aren't awarded the 200 when the we haven't met our minimum as per the ISL. No wonder things never got done before the merger with you guys. You just roll over and say it can't be done so that's it. There is a Colgan vacancy on mymesaba already. Maybe they have something figured out. Maybe not. I guess we'll see.
Yet the protocol agreement also states that the ISL is in affect for vacancies when it is announced. You can't have it both ways. I would say it is in effect. If Mgmt. cannot meet training, the the vacancy should be delayed, or the pilots held under the bypass provisions for up to 90 days. Training may not be that much, especially for those that just need requal, differences, or 9E flows/calls. That training could be completed in days.Practically speaking there is no ISL until the list has been presented to the company. ALPA will not present the list until all parties have had a chance to review the award and get answers to any questions or concerns. The protocol agreement had a 60 day window to resolve these issues. When that process is over, ALPA will "announce" the list.
Jet FO to prop FO is a paycut. Anyway, this is no surprise. Mesaba and Colgan had already been doing their own hiring/training. Mesaba's website announced hiring for the Colgan side of things a lil while ago.
Yet the protocol agreement also states that the ISL is in affect for vacancies when it is announced. You can't have it both ways. I would say it is in effect. If Mgmt. cannot meet training, the the vacancy should be delayed, or the pilots held under the bypass provisions for up to 90 days. Training may not be that much, especially for those that just need requal, differences, or 9E flows/calls. That training could be completed in days.
With this vacancy, there is no way, no matter where you are, that you would be displaced. The only way you could be displaced in the near future is if you were near the bottom of the 9E list and a Saab fo (which the category was stapled behind you) which is senior to you is displaced by a realignment. Besides, you already got a 25% (based on the average) pay raise in Feb, so you should still be net ahead, right? Again, give me a break.
edit: Wait, you have another thread started about not having 250 hours PIC to get your ATP. It doesn't sound like you are gearing up for a pay cut.
Either way, time will tell. Those with a chance to move/upgrade should prepare their pref bids accordingly.You've convinced yourself that you know the specific definition of "announced" and who is able to do the announcing. I'm not sold on the idea that the list has been announced yet.
I think the transition from Mesaba jet to pinnacle jet is about a 3 week program plus OE.
I only know what you all have said about 9E training. At XJ, a requal or differences would be done in about 4 days.