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What's up with DAL's greenslips?

nwaredtail

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Just want to get a hold of the "greenslip's" that were sold to the NWA guys instead of 1.5 pay above 80. From what I have been told by the DAL guys, the greenslips are few and far between, and you pretty much need to live in base and work your days off to "maybe" get one.


How does it work and how many guys does it affect. At the roadshows, it was sold as a common occurance.
 

another cfii

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Just want to get a hold of the "greenslip's" that were sold to the NWA guys instead of 1.5 pay above 80. From what I have been told by the DAL guys, the greenslips are few and far between, and you pretty much need to live in base and work your days off to "maybe" get one.


How does it work and how many guys does it affect. At the roadshows, it was sold as a common occurance.

GS is given out depending on staffing. For DL, during summer time, it's a frequent events, but now in winter time, it depends on daily operation necessity.
In PCS, you have 4 GS request options: in-base w/conflict, in-base w/o conflict, out of base w/conflict, out of base w/o conflict. And you fill out the form that specify what date/time you're willing to accept GS, and which base and such. CS offers it from seniority, and the guy accepts it gets 2x pay(for lineholder) on his days off. For rsv guys, single pay, no credit, plus payback days for working in your off days.

Even during winter time, I got 5 voicemails begging for GS during my long stretch of days off (i was out of country) Company loves giving out GS because it saves them from having a higher number of reserve required.

Hope that answers some of your questions.
 

nwaredtail

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GS is given out depending on staffing. For DL, during summer time, it's a frequent events, but now in winter time, it depends on daily operation necessity.
In PCS, you have 4 GS request options: in-base w/conflict, in-base w/o conflict, out of base w/conflict, out of base w/o conflict. And you fill out the form that specify what date/time you're willing to accept GS, and which base and such. CS offers it from seniority, and the guy accepts it gets 2x pay(for lineholder) on his days off. For rsv guys, single pay, no credit, plus payback days for working in your off days.

Even during winter time, I got 5 voicemails begging for GS during my long stretch of days off (i was out of country) Company loves giving out GS because it saves them from having a higher number of reserve required.

Hope that answers some of your questions.

Thanks, are you able to GS out of base, ie fly a NYC 88 trip when based in ATL?
 

another cfii

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Yes, GS maybe out of base (therefore you can select the option to fly GS in your home base or out of base, and it's up to you to make the show time. (Just don't forget to bring your hat:)

I believe you have 10 min. from scheduler calls you to decide if you want to pull the trigger before they move down the next GS pilots on seniority list.

I also like the FNW way of 1.5 pay above 80 hours. But that's a totally different subject. I would love to see both GS and your 1.5 pay >80 hours on our next contract:)
 

lakemead1

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I live in SLC and am based at LAX. I have consistently got one out of base GS every month. I will be based in SLC at the end of the month but I have had a good deal of success with them. You just have to be flexible.
 

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Last summer I was a GS fiened. A typical month was 5 Greenslips and two Inverse Assignments. I was still getting 13 days off a month and averaging 150 hours of pay. The good ol' days. Daviator
 

GogglesPisano

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I spent 6 months on the 737 in NYC -- not a single GS.

So far I've been on the ER for a year and have gotten 2 (both during summer.)

Other than being flexible you really have no control over whether or not you are called. Right now the ER in NYC is fat (and it's winter.) The 88 in ATL is really short.

Bottom line: Don't bank on them.
 

PeanuckleCRJ

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It pays 200% for lineholders. For reserves it is straight pay above guarantee.


I forgot my hat a couple trips ago. For some reason the airplane was still able to fly....

Go figure.
 

FBN0223

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I forgot my hat a couple trips ago. For some reason the airplane was still able to fly....

Go figure.

P-CRJ

So what's the deal with that? I plan on conforming to the DL uniform policy but if one were to forget his/her hat, can you expect a fine from the uniform police.
 

General Lee

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So what's the deal with that? I plan on conforming to the DL uniform policy but if one were to forget his/her hat, can you expect a fine from the uniform police.


No, no fines. I think if you are seen outside of the crewroom without your hat you may be talked to in ATL, but I haven't seen it anywhere else. If they continue to recognize you without your hat, then you may get pulled in and questioned. If you refuse to conform, they may pull you in and talk with a few people. The best thing would be to bring your hat, hang it on your bag, and if asked put it on. Most wear it so they don't drop it or lose it. I would absolutely say bring it along regardless.

Bye Bye--General Lee
 

PeanuckleCRJ

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I had to go stand in the corner for an hour and write "I will not forget my hat" on the chalkboard 300 times.





In all seriousness, it's no big deal. It happens and it's alot better than forgetting your passport or something.
 

another cfii

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I think the uniform policy is most effective within the ATL area. The further you fly west, east, out of the country, it has more discretion for deviance:) Now I wear my hat because it's winter now, and with the upcoming displacement, i'm saving a few bucks on hair care products.:beer:
 

Truckdriver

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I spent 6 months on the 737 in NYC -- not a single GS.

So far I've been on the ER for a year and have gotten 2 (both during summer.)

Other than being flexible you really have no control over whether or not you are called. Right now the ER in NYC is fat (and it's winter.) The 88 in ATL is really short.

Bottom line: Don't bank on them.

Preety much right, don't bank on them. I would much rather have the 1.5 above 80 then you could whiteslip and make 1.5 pay because they do everything possible to get out of giving a greenslip. They will DH a guy around the world if they don't have to pay GS pay. 1.5 above 80 was a much better deal.
 
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