Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
  • Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
  • Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
  • Share the passion for aviation
  • Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun

What's the deal with Pink Slips?

Welcome to Flightinfo.com

  • Register now and join the discussion
  • Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
  • Invite your friends
  • Share the passion of aviation
  • Friendliest aviation community on the web

kneeshoe

Well-known member
Joined
Mar 25, 2005
Posts
50
Like many people, I have busted a checkride and received a pink slip. Here are a few questions that I had about it:

1. What does the FAA do with their copy of my pink slip?
2. Will future employers frown upon this?
3. What should I do with the pink slip that I was given?
4. Why do exams given under part 61 and 142 have pink slips, but not part 141?
 
kneeshoe said:
Like many people, I have busted a checkride and received a pink slip. Here are a few questions that I had about it:

1. What does the FAA do with their copy of my pink slip?
2. Will future employers frown upon this?
3. What should I do with the pink slip that I was given?
4. Why do exams given under part 61 and 142 have pink slips, but not part 141?

1. ??
2. Usually not
3. Frame it and display it proudly above your mantle
4. ??
 
Yeah , that show was cool... The RX-7 owned that civic!

Or, there is always a chance it will come up in an interview. Whatever you do don't say oh the weather was bumpy, or the examiner wasn't fair...blah blah.

Just make sure you say you messed something up and you learned from it.

Wankel
 
most employers won't care, unless you show a pattern of failures. Chances are that the people doing the interview have been pinked also.
 
I got pink slipped three times in my flight training career.

TWO of them was by the same examiner, and was both on my Private and Instrument orals, both doing with flight planning.

The THIRD one I earned fair and square on the flight portion of another rating.

I've always heard that two or more pink slips is really bad, but technically the first two I got was both ground work, and it was the same subject on the first two checkrides I ever took. Would that maybe give me some leeway in the eyes of an interviewer?
 
kneeshoe said:
Like many people, I have busted a checkride and received a pink slip. Here are a few questions that I had about it:

1. What does the FAA do with their copy of my pink slip?
2. Will future employers frown upon this?
3. What should I do with the pink slip that I was given?
4. Why do exams given under part 61 and 142 have pink slips, but not part 141?

1. I think it goes in your record, but am not sure.
2. Not for 1 or 2, but only if you accept responsibility and tell them what
you have learned. Blame it on somthing other than yourself and you just
bought a bus ticket home.
3. Wipe with it.
4. 141 schools do hand out pink slips. The only ones that dont are schools
with self examining authority.
 
Ill Mitch said:

So when a doo-doo chump points his finger like a stump, tell him "step off, I'm doin' the hump."
 
I had one back in the day. Never heard about it again.
 
kneeshoe said:
4. Why do exams given under part 61 and 142 have pink slips, but not part 141?

You only get pink slips for failing practical tests. If you completed a Part 141 course (with in house examining authority) and received you're license, you never took a practical test. You take an "End of Course" test, which is designed just like a practical test, but officially isn't considered one. Bust that, and it's just another failed lesson.

Look on the back of an 8710, and you'll see they also fill out the section that says "This applicant has completed our approved _______ training course, and we recommend him/her for certification without further practical test". (Not verbatim, but something like that).
 
Take heart. The guy who pinked you may be sitting across from you at an interview one day (on the sweaty side of the table.) It has happened.
 
kneeshoe said:
Like many people, I have busted a checkride and received a pink slip. Here are a few questions that I had about it:

1. What does the FAA do with their copy of my pink slip?
2. Will future employers frown upon this?
3. What should I do with the pink slip that I was given?
4. Why do exams given under part 61 and 142 have pink slips, but not part 141?

1. The pink slip is sent in with the file to OKC and kept. A normal review of your record by a perspective employer does not show failures of practical tests or scores that were made on written tests. However, if someone really wants to do a thorough check of your file, a "Blue Ribbon" file report can be accomplished. This will require the FAA to go into your record a find and copy every 8710 form, pink slip, written test report, etcetera. A "Blue Ribbon" file is time consuming and not commonly requested or done by the FAA.

2. I know plenty of people who have had pink slips and it didn't affect much. Naturally if you flunked a P/P ride 5-years ago that is insignificant as compared to flunking an ATP check twice just one month ago. It all just has to be explained if you choose to explain it. Also, depending how you look at thinks, the failure of a CFI test is really not a failure of a “pilot” test.

3. The pink slip is to be turned in to the FAA examiner/inspector upon your re-examination.

4. This has been correctly explained by "chrisdahut24."
 
chrisdahut24 said:
You only get pink slips for failing practical tests. If you completed a Part 141 course (with in house examining authority) and received you're license, you never took a practical test. You take an "End of Course" test, which is designed just like a practical test, but officially isn't considered one. Bust that, and it's just another failed lesson.

Look on the back of an 8710, and you'll see they also fill out the section that says "This applicant has completed our approved _______ training course, and we recommend him/her for certification without further practical test". (Not verbatim, but something like that).


Unless they changed the rules since 2000 I believe this is incorrect...I failed the oral for my instrument. I flight planned to the wrong airport; or maybe my examiner was just teasing me, told me to come back the next day with an additional 150 dollars. Either way that guy squeezed 400 clams outta me.
 
H.Agenda said:
Unless they changed the rules since 2000 I believe this is incorrect...I failed the oral for my instrument. I flight planned to the wrong airport; or maybe my examiner was just teasing me, told me to come back the next day with an additional 150 dollars. Either way that guy squeezed 400 clams outta me.


I'm not sure how you're experience is relevant to or invalidates my explanation.
 

Latest resources

Back
Top