What's life like flying for ATI?

[Captzaahlie]

Just asking an honest question.....

 

[b707guy]

Can't really say anything new that hasn't been said here before, so grab a beer or three and use the search button above for ATI, as there's a lot of info going back to 2002. Bottom line, though, is it's actually pretty good. We've recalled everyone that was furloughed (everyone came back - a first, I believe, but given the current hiring state industry-wide...), and are a few weeks from a new hire class of poolies that have been treading water since last summer. Next class slated for January, if things pan out for some 767s that we're in line for. BAX is in a state of flux, which is nothing new, but perhaps more so now than ever before with some interesting ties with the DHL system. I have heard (no confirmation) that BAX signed a facilities agreement with TOL through 2013, so that's at least a positive indicator. The phone seems to be ringing more often for charter work, too.

If you got an app in during the window (that just closed), then you're at least a step closer.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Can't really say anything new that hasn't been said here before, so grab a beer or three and use the search button above for ATI, as there's a lot of info going back to 2002. Bottom line, though, is it's actually pretty good. We've recalled everyone that was furloughed (everyone came back - a first, I believe, but given the current hiring state industry-wide...), and are a few weeks from a new hire class of poolies that have been treading water since last summer. Next class slated for January, if things pan out for some 767s that we're in line for. BAX is in a state of flux, which is nothing new, but perhaps more so now than ever before with some interesting ties with the DHL system. I have heard (no confirmation) that BAX signed a facilities agreement with TOL through 2013, so that's at least a positive indicator. The phone seems to be ringing more often for charter work, too.

If you got an app in during the window (that just closed), then you're at least a step closer.

Thanks for the reply, I'll do the back search as suggested.
Made the window, taking one step at a time.
Hoping to get back in the saddle one day also.
Not only would it be nice to have a little cash to pay the bills,
I actually really miss flying too.
Take care,
Z.

 

[MD11Drvr]

I was'nt there long as I was a part of the great purge of 2001. I was only there about 18 months but a finer bunch of aviators would be hard to find. I would still be there had I not been furloughed in 2001. Good luck and have fun in the DC-8, Great Airplane!

 

[NERVOUS]

I was'nt there long as I was a part of the great purge of 2001. I was only there about 18 months but a finer bunch of aviators would be hard to find. I would still be there had I not been furloughed in 2001. Good luck and have fun in the DC-8, Great Airplane!

Couldn't of said it better then that!

'cept for that b707guy, though!

 

[b707guy]

Couldn't of said it better then that!

'cept for that b707guy, though!

MOOOMMMMMM, Nervous is picking on me again!!!!! He's mean! :laugh:

 

[Sig]

Couldn't of said it better then that!

'cept for that b707guy, though!

Just a Dash Trash skipper trolling to find a way for parole out of my current prison-

but that's Nervous! Are you affiliated with the label?

And SUP Z? I hope you're getting by.

 

[NERVOUS]

I was a commuter scum when I went to ATI, and basically knew three things about the company:

1. I'd be flying the DC-8.

2. There'd be some international flying involved.

3. A suspicion that any pilots still flying around in an -'8, must the kind of aviators I'd want to have a beer with.

In a nutshell, that's basically what happened! After my first few "tours" there, I seem to have recieved (in addition,) a refresher course in Private Pilot, Instrument, Commercial Pilot Ground School, a lesson in Foreign Relations, worldwide salary rates of working women, and something akin to English dialect speech rocognition for Aviators! Did I miss something, Dave?

Good times.

And yes, I was something of an "end comsumer" of Nervous vinyl.

 

[b707guy]

That's pretty much it in the ol' nutshell, G (I'll take yer word on the worldwide working wimmen salaries - I'm quite happily married and intend to stay that way....). We do miss ya here! But glad that you found a good ride! Hey to DM if ya see him.

 

[PHXFLYR]

I was a commuter scum when I went to ATI, and basically knew three things about the company:

1. I'd be flying the DC-8.

2. There'd be some international flying involved.

3. A suspicion that any pilots still flying around in an -'8, must the kind of aviators I'd want to have a beer with.

In a nutshell, that's basically what happened! After my first few "tours" there, I seem to have recieved (in addition,) a refresher course in Private Pilot, Instrument, Commercial Pilot Ground School, a lesson in Foreign Relations, worldwide salary rates of working women, and something akin to English dialect speech rocognition for Aviators! Did I miss something, Dave?

Good times.

And yes, I was something of an "end comsumer" of Nervous vinyl.

Absolutely,without a doubt . If you like swapping flying stories, then this is the place for you. The folks I had the privelage of flying with during my short time there could tell you stories about flying that ancient pelican of an airplane into some god-forsaken corner of the world I couldn't even find on a map. And let me tell you, those guys and gals could make that ol' airplane stand on it's tail and dance if they had to. First class professional aviators each and every one. I'd put my wife and kids on their airplane anyday.



PHXFLYR

 

[b747dogg]

I see the 8's out Melbourne, FL. often. Who is that for?
Cheers

 

[Captzaahlie]

Just a Dash Trash skipper trolling to find a way for parole out of my current prison-

but that's Nervous! Are you affiliated with the label?

And SUP Z? I hope you're getting by.

Hey Sig,

things be turning around.....

Nerv,707 & Mdleven thanks for the posts....

Z.

 

[DC8-PFE]

I see the 8's out Melbourne, FL. often. Who is that for?
Cheers

For the govt. Used to go out of Patrick. It goes to Ascension Island.

 

[b747dogg]

Ascension Island, is between Brazil and Africa?

 

[b707guy]

Yep, south Atlantic. Just under 3 hours to Antigua from MLB, then about 7 to Ascension.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascension_Island

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

The freight here in East Africa has picked up a LOT since Sep. Dubai had their best cargo month EVER in Aug. 2.?% better than Aug, 2008.

cliff
NBO

 

[pilotpm]

Class starts for me on 10/29. My 1 & 1/2 year unemployment nightmare is over! Talk is more classes to come.

 

[Captzaahlie]

Class starts for me on 10/29. My 1 & 1/2 year unemployment nightmare is over! Talk is more classes to come.

Ditto, it was 12 months on the nose for me, see you in class on the 29th !
and of course last but not least, congratulations to you!:beer:

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Hope it is great for you guys. You will enjoy being in the cockpit!

cliff
NBO

 

[Captain Oveur]

Sounds like interesting work....and the idea of 'time off'. I have to try that some time

 

[bluefin]

Is the app window going to open back up any time soon? How many swimmers?

 

[pilotgolfer]

Is the app window going to open back up any time soon? How many swimmers?

The 10/29 class emptied the pool of guys from a year and 1/2 ago. I think there are a couple of guys in the upcoming class that interviewed very recently. I'm not sure how many they interviewed off this last application window, but I imagine there are about a dozen who will be in the next couple classes.

Just speculation on my part.

 

[johnsonrod]

Ditto, it was 12 months on the nose for me, see you in class on the 29th !
and of course last but not least, congratulations to you!:beer:

Congrats guys! Quick questions:

1. Are newhires starting as FOs or FEs on the DC8s?

2. What's the breakdown % between domestic and international flying tend to be?

3. Any word on whether ATI will be adding more 767s to replace DC8s in the near future? I personally am a fan of the DC8 - I think it would be an interesting airplane to fly.

Anyone know if all of the DC8s are EFIS equipped like this one (nice fruit tray):

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-...94434/L/&sid=cbab4f129c22c694882ec4e0cfb57941

I've heard good things about ATI and I am glad to hear there is finally some hiring going on.

 

[MrSky]

Congrats guys! Quick questions:

1. Are newhires starting as FOs or FEs on the DC8s?

Probably DC-8 FO's

2. What's the breakdown % between domestic and international flying tend to be?

It depends how far your willing to sacrifice days off vs. time at home. You will probably not see an Intl. scheduled line for years. But.... If your willing to give up a bit of QOL you can go "Open or Scheduled Reserve" then you have a greater chance of Intl. flying (vacation cover/charters)

3. Any word on whether ATI will be adding more 767s to replace DC8s in the near future? I personally am a fan of the DC8 - I think it would be an interesting airplane to fly.

They've said at times 1 for 1 replacement, we'll see. 8's are cheap to operate as long as you can get parts. I'm in no rush to see more 767's on property, but if they come with "home basing", the guys already here will probably jump all over them for the foreseeable future. I would think for a while at least all training will be in the 8.

Anyone know if all of the DC8s are EFIS equipped like this one (nice fruit tray):

Nope 71 series are "Steam Gauges" and they work great. 73's are poor mans EFIS. I had much better stuff on the Brazilla, but they work. Fruit Tray Optional

I've heard good things about ATI and I am glad to hear there is finally some hiring going on.

Yep and with ALPA coming on the property soon (Nov 4th, 1401 EST) it may help jump start contract negotiations, at least we all hope so.

Rumors next "window" Jan 2010, watch the website. It's usually posted before crews know about it

 

[hdmadog]

Concrats to you guys going to class on the 29th.

I have an Interview on the 22 any info would be greatly appreciated.

Were you guys in the pool from last year?

Thanks to all for all the great info provided on this site I have gone back years reading about ATI.

Thanks, JJ

 

[b707guy]

What MrSky said, but I'll add:

Congrats guys! Quick questions:

1. Are newhires starting as FOs or FEs on the DC8s?

We have a Second Officer list, but it has always been empty and should stay that way. All engineer seat occupants here are bonafide PFEs or retired pilots with A&P licenses.

Anyone know if all of the DC8s are EFIS equipped like this one (nice fruit tray):

All 5 of our -73s are equipped as in the photo, and our sole operational -72 has a similar, slightly better display. All of the -62s and -71s are steam-equipped. Bad form on the fruit tray - not spota put stuff up there! I've NEVER done that. Today, anyway...

Congrats to everyone headed for class, and best of luck to those with interviews!

 

[Captzaahlie]

A couple of you guys have pm'd me asking about the interview and I havent had time to respond because I've been slammed trying to get some things done before next weeks G/S!
I'll try to sit down and write an update for this site:
http://www.willflyforfood.com/pilot-interviews/214/ATI-Air-Transport-Intl-.html
I haven't added anything yet but these two prior posts are very much spot on. The 20 question mult. choice gen.aviation knowledge test is something you can't even remember once you walk out side the room because of the wording. Read the questions carefully and you should do fine. What little I can remember; runway center line lights during the last couple thousand feet, temp vs alt vs performance question, when does wake turbulence end ? (touchdown, but the answer was written funny, something like when the nose wheel touches the ground....) Just read the questions carefully, if you can fly an airplane you should be able to do fine. The sim session was easy , the intructors are great , they want you to do good. they are just there to weed out the hopeless cases! If you can scan an instrument panel you can get through it... t/o intercept a radial, go to a vor enter a hold , vector to an ils and land.Not a big deal , use the guy in the left seat and use any flows/verbage from what you are used to ..... The hr/interview session was relaxed too. A few tell me about a time questions; how would you handle a guy who is known to go below mins all the time, How do you feel about 'silly" SOP's. Nothing very technical, they just want to get to know you. No biggy with that part either! Good luck , you'll do fine! It's a very relaxed family type interview , no tricks and some of the nicest people you will ever meet!:beer:


Classic Purdiness:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Transport-International/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-8-73AF/1569575/L/&sid=135eaa77eaa4745ea7b1bd83202f373e

 

[SMOE]

A couple of you guys have pm'd me asking about the interview and I havent had time to respond because I've been slammed trying to get some things done before next weeks G/S!
I'll try to sit down and write an update for this site:
http://www.willflyforfood.com/pilot-interviews/214/ATI-Air-Transport-Intl-.html
I haven't added anything yet but these two prior posts are very much spot on. The 20 question mult. choice gen.aviation knowledge test is something you can't even remember once you walk out side the room because of the wording. Read the questions carefully and you should do fine. What little I can remember; runway center line lights during the last couple thousand feet, temp vs alt vs performance question, when does wake turbulence end ? (touchdown, but the answer was written funny, something like when the nose wheel touches the ground....) Just read the questions carefully, if you can fly an airplane you should be able to do fine. The sim session was easy , the intructors are great , they want you to do good. they are just there to weed out the hopeless cases! If you can scan an instrument panel you can get through it... t/o intercept a radial, go to a vor enter a hold , vector to an ils and land.Not a big deal , use the guy in the left seat and use any flows/verbage from what you are used to ..... The hr/interview session was relaxed too. A few tell me about a time questions; how would you handle a guy who is known to go below mins all the time, How do you feel about 'silly" SOP's. Nothing very technical, they just want to get to know you. No biggy with that part either! Good luck , you'll do fine! It's a very relaxed family type interview , no tricks and some of the nicest people you will ever meet!:beer:


Classic Purdiness:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Air-Transport-International/McDonnell-Douglas-DC-8-73AF/1569575/L/&sid=135eaa77eaa4745ea7b1bd83202f373e

Thanks! I really appreciate you taking time to post this while in the crunch for time. I'm interviewing next week and am really psyched! ATI is somewhere I've wanted to work for ... ever!

 

[Jurasicpilot]

I sure hope it works out, ATI has had a habit of hiring in the fall for the spring furlough. A search on here will bring up several post about it. I guess they are in the 5th year of negotiations following a 100% strike vote. The good thing is that ATI has their hands in everyone's pie right now. (AMC, BAX, DHL, Charter, ACMI) The amazing thing about it all is despite all the BS Ive never talked to an ATI crew member that regretted being there.

However, as of recent, there is some internal strife about some crew members being called S**BS over the KMIA base bid against union "recommendation". There was a post on another site with Names but it was locked/deleted quickly. One pilot over there is petitioning the (keepers of the list) to add the names. It would be the first addition in 5yrs or so. His argument being the CAL83 40 and the UAL85 50. He wrote a great post (ref'ed some rulings and arguments from both suites) even an old fart found it very interesting. Sad it disappeared so quickly. Sites are quick to ban poeple who talk of such stuff though. SO I sure wont.

I sure wouldn't leave a steady job for them but if unemployed heck yeah do it.

 

[l8fr82hub]

Welcome new hires! I think most of you will be happy here and I wouldn't worry too much about the fall hiring/ January furloughing thing because rumor has it we will not be doing a UPS peak this year; therefore this hiring should be due to non-seasonal business. Presently we are very busy doing charters and the company seems to have realized they waited too long to fill seats.