What would it take to Keep union out of Colgan?

[suupah]

What would have to happen at Colgan for you to not want a union?

 

[MalmsteenFan]

What would have to happen at Colgan for you to not want a union?

Not get merged with, or messed by PNCL for one!

 

[Golden Falcon]

from the look of things 'round the industry ther back home, no union is tantamount to career suicide

 

[Prop2Jet]

Free orders of male enhancement drugs!

 

[suupah]

It isn't the size of the plane, its the thrust!

 

[chicksdgme]

George dubya was banned from flight info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!

I am so pro union I hope it happens soon! If you speak out against the union you get banned on flight info. Unions are great I love them.

 

[DoinTime]

Not get merged with, or messed by PNCL for one!

PNCL already owns Colgan. There is no undoing that. Why would you not want a merger anyway?

 

[DrewBlows]

George dubya was banned from flight info!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!

I am so pro union I hope it happens soon! If you speak out against the union you get banned on flight info. Unions are great I love them.

Uh... I suspect it has more to do with name calling and the fact that he doesn't appear to ever posted anything even remotely constructive.

Here are a few gems.

Yeah I was going to shut up you made a good point until you said ERAU lol. Your a tool. How much money you owe stupid? LOL. I would rather be a ****************************** than a giant bone smuggler like yourself..

Well I guess you haven't checked in 2 years scumbag.

I suspect the one that got him thrown off was taken off also.

Edit: On second look, these posts aren't that bad in the grand scheme of things. I'm guessing we don't see what got him tossed or he only got a few days off.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

umm...a no vote would keep a union out of colgan if there was a vote to organize.

 

[Snaab]

Why would you not want a merger anyway?

Are you seriously asking this question (no offense)? Let's start with job security. Oh, and let's not forget small, insignificant facts like the fact that one airline is small, family-run and owned, and non-unionized, while the other is much larger, has ALPA, and a history of low morale and shady management practices.

 

[DoinTime]

Are you seriously asking this question (no offense)? Let's start with job security. Oh, and let's not forget small, insignificant facts like the fact that one airline is small, family-run and owned, and non-unionized, while the other is much larger, has ALPA, and a history of low morale and shady management practices.

Colgan is no longer a family owned buisness and shorlty it will not be family operated. Low moral and shady management are a hallmark of Pinnacle Airlines, Corp. Its only a matter of time before you will feel the impact of our executive goon squad.

An equitable merger increases job security and boosts long term career expectations/earnings for all.

 

[belchfire]

Are you seriously asking this question (no offense)? Let's start with job security. Oh, and let's not forget small, insignificant facts like the fact that one airline is small, family-run and owned, and non-unionized, while the other is much larger, has ALPA, and a history of low morale and shady management practices.

Which seperates them one from the other and how?

Small corrupt family owned business or larger, corrupt business with workers (un)represented by a union that has become in its own right a big business...

The only difference is who pays for the lawyers when someone is wrongfully terminated (or perhaps not) and if they get back pay...

 

[PCL_128]

Are you seriously asking this question (no offense)? Let's start with job security. Oh, and let's not forget small, insignificant facts like the fact that one airline is small, family-run and owned, and non-unionized, while the other is much larger, has ALPA, and a history of low morale and shady management practices.

You've got to get out of this mindset that you are still part of this "small, family-run and owned" company. That company no longer exists. You are now a subsidiary of Pinnacle Corp, a company with over a $1 billion in annual revenue. The Colgans are merely short-term place holders until Phil can install his own goons to run the Colgan operation. The Colgans will walk away with very large severance checks and lots of stock, and you will be left to deal with the likes of Buddy Casey (former Lorenzo goon, current Trenary goon).

As for the benefits of an integration, you're absolutely right that job protections are a must for both groups. That's why it would be beneficial for you to have ALPA representation. In a merger between two ALPA groups, both pilot groups have representatives that negotiate the new seniority list. There are also many different ways that "fences" can be created to keep pilots from being displaced and to keep upgrade times at current levels. I don't know why the idea is out there that an integration would be bad for the Colgan pilots. In fact, the Colgan pilot group has a lot more to gain from it than we would.

 

[Fred Rogers]

You've got to get out of this mindset that you are still part of this "small, family-run and owned" company. That company no longer exists. You are now a subsidiary of Pinnacle Corp, a company with over a $1 billion in annual revenue. The Colgans are merely short-term place holders until Phil can install his own goons to run the Colgan operation. The Colgans will walk away with very large severance checks and lots of stock, and you will be left to deal with the likes of Buddy Casey (former Lorenzo goon, current Trenary goon).

I'm very nervous that this is exactly true.

www.alpa.org/colgan

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I'm very nervous that this is exactly true.

www.alpa.org/colgan

it is true....and very real...

Companies including regional airlines are only interested in one thing. The uninterupted flow of cash. They are not interested in respect, trust, fairness, justice, compassion, empathy or a work/life balance.