What will they gain?

[thebest]

Ok, what will Skywest gain by having alpa on their property? FACTS ONLY WITH SOURCES! In other words, if you say alpa has done something to help/not help the airlines, show us all the links a.k.a. PROOF! THEBEST

 

[Gobi Gred]

Read Flying the Line Vols. 1 and 2. If you contact a member of the organizing committee I'm sure they can hook you up with free copies.

 

[USCtrojan]

Ok, what will Skywest gain by having alpa on their property? FACTS ONLY WITH SOURCES! In other words, if you say alpa has done something to help/not help the airlines, show us all the links a.k.a. PROOF! THEBEST

I can't post it, but maybe someone else can?

ALPA grants $4 million to bolster Mesaba, Comair........

I don't know about you, but $2 mill a piece for each pilot group is some good jack.

Trojan

 

[thebest]

We don't know the facts if you don't post sources! Lets see how great alpa is going to be....come on show them sources HERE! THEBEST

 

[USCtrojan]

We don't know the facts if you don't post sources! Lets see how great alpa is going to be....come on show them sources HERE! THEBEST

FI won't let me post, so I can't, maybe somebody else could? You gonna fly struck work there the Best?

Trojan

 

[thebest]

FI won't let me post, so I can't, maybe somebody else could? You gonna fly struck work there the Best?

Trojan

Source?

 

[thebest]

I can't post it, but maybe someone else can?

ALPA grants $4 million to bolster Mesaba, Comair........

I don't know about you, but $2 mill a piece for each pilot group is some good jack.

Trojan

I'll give ya a hint, I commute to JFK?THEBEST

 

[imacdog]

http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...sView.aspx?itemid=4726&ModuleId=2618&Tabid=73

 

[USCtrojan]

Source?

ALPA.org. Click on more news and scroll down to 9/14.

Trojan

 

[Rekks Inbound]

Air Wisconsin's Contract '99. Signed into effect 09/11/2001.

You are only as good as what you can negotiate.

Peace.

Rekks

 

[blueridge71]

Pizza party during initial training!

 

[thebest]

http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...sView.aspx?itemid=4726&ModuleId=2618&Tabid=73

Here's my thought. We know the biding of up to 143 regional jets is going down as we speak
http://feeds.atlantanews.net/?rid=0ee704283fcc91f6&cat=ffe56b8f30c50146&f=1 A few million isn't going to help them. Will Comair keep its flying....my guess---not all of it! THEBEST

 

[thebest]

http://www.alpa.org/DesktopModules/...sView.aspx?itemid=4726&ModuleId=2618&Tabid=73

Here's my thought. We know the biding of up to 143 regional jets is going down as we speak.
http://feeds.atlantanews.net/?rid=0ee704283fcc91f6&cat=ffe56b8f30c50146&f=1 A few million isn't going to help them. Will Comair keep its flying....my guess---not all of it! THEBEST

 

[thebest]

damn dog

 

[imacdog]

You wanted a source, I provided one. That's all.

 

[ASApuppy]

If Skywest votes in ALPA, it will make a seniorty list integration go much smoother. As it is right now, the only one speaking for Skywest pilots is ASA management on their latest Section 1 Proposal when they included a clause for how ASA pilots would transfer. Yes, I know the clause was dung, but just the fact that there was something in there was quite a leap.

 

[thebest]

If Skywest votes in ALPA, it will make a seniorty list integration go much smoother. As it is right now, the only one speaking for Skywest pilots is ASA management on their latest Section 1 Proposal when they included a clause for how ASA pilots would transfer. Yes, I know the clause was dung, but just the fact that there was something in there was quite a leap.

SOURCE!

 

[DrewBlows]

http://feeds.atlantanews.net/?rid=0ee704283fcc91f6&cat=ffe56b8f30c50146&f=1 A few million isn't going to help them. Will Comair keep its flying....my guess---not all of it! THEBEST

SOURCE!

Don't be an idiot. This is a discussion board, when someone offers their opinion don't yell at them, it's annoying. Try doing a little research yourself; ALPA.org is a good start. Someone else suggested reading Flying the Line Volumes 1 and 2. These books provide a comprehensive history of ALPA.

 

[thebest]

Don't be an idiot. This is a discussion board, when someone offers their opinion don't yell at them, it's annoying. Try doing a little research yourself; ALPA.org is a good start. Someone else suggested reading Flying the Line Volumes 1 and 2. These books provide a comprehensive history of ALPA.

Calm down francis! The REAL history of alpa comes down to LOWERING THE BAR! That is E-X-C-A-T-L-Y what happened. Something alpa lovers, love to say never happend.......BUT IT DID! THEBEST

 

[DrewBlows]

Calm down francis! The REAL history of alpa comes down to LOWERING THE BAR! That is E-X-C-A-T-L-Y what happened. Something alpa lovers, love to say never happend.......BUT IT DID! THEBEST

What are you talking about, and WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Ok, what will Skywest gain by having alpa on their property? FACTS ONLY WITH SOURCES! In other words, if you say alpa has done something to help/not help the airlines, show us all the links a.k.a. PROOF! THEBEST

Do you even work for SkyWest?????????????????

 

[ASApuppy]

SOURCE!

http://www.asacontract.com/pa/documents/Contract_2.pdf

 

[Weasil]

If Skywest votes in ALPA, it will make a seniorty list integration go much smoother.

You're kidding right? Have you ever followed past seniority list integrations? Like AA and TWA or how about the one going on right now between US Airways (AAA) and America West, I wouldn't exactly call that "smooth"

 

[pilotbrain]

Ok, what will Skywest gain by having alpa on their property? FACTS ONLY WITH SOURCES! In other words, if you say alpa has done something to help/not help the airlines, show us all the links a.k.a. PROOF! THEBEST

I for one have to say that bringing alpa into skywest will drive a wedge between management and the pilots thus causing management to respond the only way they know how....stick it to labor. I for one don't want this to happen here. I have loved working for this company for five years now and say vote "NO" on alpa.

 

[ASApuppy]

You're kidding right? Have you ever followed past seniority list integrations? Like AA and TWA or how about the one going on right now between US Airways (AAA) and America West, I wouldn't exactly call that "smooth"

Apples to oranges. AA is APA and TWA was ALPA. American bought at fire sale and was 4 times larger than TWA. The seniority at US Airways and America west is a mess due to the difference in relative ages and longevity. AAA furloughed almost to the most senior longevity at Cactus. DOH would be a staple.

Skywest and ASA are in a different situation. Their ages are similar, Skywest 30+ years and ASA 25+ years. They fly almost identical fleets. I know the EMB-120 is retired from ASA, but it is still in our Op Specs. And, at acquisition, the workforce was similarly sized 1750 to 2100 or so. Your input is welcome, but you must first vote in your dog to this fight.

 

[Bluto]

I for one have to say that bringing alpa into skywest will drive a wedge between management and the pilots thus causing management to respond the only way they know how....stick it to labor. I for one don't want this to happen here. I have loved working for this company for five years now and say vote "NO" on alpa.

Why would that happen? You've been at SkyWest 5 years and you honestly haven't seen a downward trend in that time period with respect to QOL and labor/mgmt relations? What makes you think that ALPA will drive a wedge between SGU and the pilot group? I would argue that there is already a chasm between the groups. The only thing that can bridge that gap is some leverage on the part of the pilot group.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

Why would that happen? You've been at SkyWest 5 years and you honestly haven't seen a downward trend in that time period with respect to QOL and labor/mgmt relations? What makes you think that ALPA will drive a wedge between SGU and the pilot group? I would argue that there is already a chasm between the groups. The only thing that can bridge that gap is some leverage on the part of the pilot group.

Amen brother!

 

[Shrek]

Bluto is on the MARK..........Good Luck Skywest/ASA

 

[Junkflyer]

You'd be fools not to vote in a union.

 

[BoilerUP]

I for one don't want this to happen here. I have loved working for this company for five years now and say vote "NO" on alpa.

I thought you worked for GoJet.