What to expect if NMB releases 9E to Self Help

nwcrjca

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My question quite simply is:

What benefits will instantly dissolve once we enter into a lawful strike?

Will we retain medical benefits or other insurance benefits or will we have to pay for cobra?

What about jumpseating on other carriers?

Of course all of this is jumping the gun since we all know we at 9E have a better chance of winning the lottery then being released by the NMB.
 

Smacktard

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My question quite simply is:

What benefits will instantly dissolve once we enter into a lawful strike?

Will we retain medical benefits or other insurance benefits or will we have to pay for cobra?

What about jumpseating on other carriers?

Of course all of this is jumping the gun since we all know we at 9E have a better chance of winning the lottery then being released by the NMB.

Is it April 1st or something? What if...now that's funny!
 

JetPilot_Mike

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When I was on strike at Comair we (and you) lose anything company offered...aka health insurance. I still had my ID so I was able to jumpseat. Of course your company will probably stop paying to maintain it's CASS database so maybe you could still ride in the back, if the gate agent knows the rules.

Good luck.
 

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Screw getting released it aint going to happen. Grow a pair, try flying safe for a couple months. So what if they threaten your precious little 900's, they won't go anywhere when it's all said and done. Stop falling for your managements BS and going out of the way to make your operation better. They are just lauging at you all the way to the bank.

Sounds like Smarta$$ has the right idea. http://forums.flightinfo.com/showthread.php?t=107608
 
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samballs

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Well if you guys get released (won't happen) then Dl will smile and make life impossible for 9E, then dump all flying 9E does(assuming strike happens). Which in turn will make this board good again. Most on here would only talk of how quick they upgraded, and that their pilot group should not take a great contract because if they do they will not have 1 yr upgrades. If they lose 1yr upgrades then most won't be able to get that job at xyz that is furloughing, but it would be nice just to get on the list then collect unemployment for awhile. Damn, sorry just thinking about what a couple of airlines did to OH. Face it, if 9E actually does go on strike Mesa and CHQ will F you in a second. But give it a shot, hopefully it works and weak pilot groups will follow. If it doesn't you can hold your head high. Management won't stop a strike, they have proven that they would rather lose a one time lump sum then just give in to a few dollars and be profitable.
 

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From what I remember from 89days in 2001, you COBRA your health benefits, but the premiums can be paid after the fact. In other words, you don't pay COBRA premiums unless you actually use your health care. Your union reps should be able to give you a more definitive answer.

If self help is coming your way, expect the union to mobilize some sort of Family Awareness committee to help disseminate this sort of info.

Also, Mesa Sux!
 

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I would hope if (yeah, right) 9E was released to strike, that the other ALPA carriers, including DL and NW, would honor the struck work - NOBODY would be flying those routes.

When you are "released" both the company and the pilots are released - that means that the company no longer has to honor the contract it has with its pilots, can hire replacement pilots (Scabs), and stop your health insurance.

However, Delta (should) will have a hard time getting anyone else, save maybe Skywest, from flying that work. Not sure what Skywest's pilot association's agreement with their management says about flying struck work.


The only way they get released is if Obama becomes President, maybe before his 1st term is up. Bush or McCain? Forget it, NEVER happen.
 
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HockleyPilot

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However, Delta (should) will have a hard time getting anyone else, save maybe Skywest, from flying that work. Not sure what Skywest's pilot association's agreement with their management says about flying struck work.

Would never happen at SKW.....
 

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The last I looked, there is nothing in the manual concerning flying struck work at SKYW. That being said, SKyWest's record remained clean during the Comair strike. Even when Delta was increasing frequency and gauge, SKYW did not cover any of Comairs routes - not one.

There's no furlough protection, but a pilot has never been furloughed. THere's no struck work provision but no struck work has ever been flown. They have a record in both cases.
 

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Pinnacle getting released? It is a possibility if Obama gets elected, and appoints two pro-labor members on the National Mediation Board.

If McCain gets elected, you can forget it.

I have a better chance of getting laid by Gossip Girl's Blake Lively than I do getting released by the NMB to self help.
 

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The last I looked, there is nothing in the manual concerning flying struck work at SKYW. That being said, SKyWest's record remained clean during the Comair strike. Even when Delta was increasing frequency and gauge, SKYW did not cover any of Comairs routes - not one.

There's no furlough protection, but a pilot has never been furloughed. THere's no struck work provision but no struck work has ever been flown. They have a record in both cases.

So, if the company gave you the trip, you'd have to fly the trip, or call in sick, and/or risk your job and refuse to fly the trip. This is the problem with not having a Union contract.

I hope you're right.... It would REALLY suck if Skywest's management saw an opportunity to take advantage of a strike. My guess is you ARE right, as if Skywest did that, they'd effectively be making all their pilots (how many do you have now?) scabs, which would make life a living hell for their commuting pilots nation-wide, gates ran by other operators would not be so "keen" on getting Skywest planes out on time, etc. etc. etc.; Not to mention, it would probably be the catalyst for a SUCCESSFUL ALPA vote next time around (and there will be a next time around).

Let's hope it doesn't come to a strike.
 

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That's because Bush was on vacation five days out of seven during his first nine months.
In some ways, things were better that way.
 

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So you guys know who to vote for in november then...
 
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