What is in store for Comair

[Big Foot]

I am new to the boards and have been reading all I can about different airlines. Any Comair pilots that may be able to look into the crystal ball and see what is going to happen to them in the next few years. And is it worth it to get hired by them?

Thanks in advance

 

[spinproof]

I am Not a Comair pilot but I did listen in on the conference call Tuesday night (for a short period)and from what the MEC was able to say it doesn't look good. The mediator has the negotiation teams in different rooms(if I understand this correctly) and is going between.

With that said apparently the company has moved but in a negative way not benificial to the pilot group. So unless there is some movement it looks as though the company is standing it's ground and will ultimately impose. Then a new round of posturing will begin.

What this all means in the long run is anyones guess!!! I'm sure someone with a better prospective will chime in.

 

[FightingIrish]

I am Not a Comair pilot but I did listen in on the conference call Tuesday night (for a short period)and from what the MEC was able to say it doesn't look good. The mediator has the negotiation teams in different rooms(if I understand this correctly) and is going between.

With that said apparently the company has moved but in a negative way not benificial to the pilot group. So unless there is some movement it looks as though the company is standing it's ground and will ultimately impose. Then a new round of posturing will begin.

What this all means in the long run is anyones guess!!! I'm sure someone with a better prospective will chime in.

Thanks for the update. I thought you were a Comair pilot. Did you move on?

 

[imacdog]

No one knows what is going to happen beyond some paycut one way or another. Attrition is extremely high so if you come here, do so with an open mind.

 

[Dak]

No one knows what is going to happen beyond some paycut one way or another. Attrition is extremely high so if you come here, do so with an open mind.

So where are people going to? Moving up to bigger equipment(JB,CO,SWA,UPS,FDX??) and using CMR as a means to an end or taking lateral moves? I left there last year for a fantastic job and am thankful to have worked at CMR and to all the people there. IMO people should definately consider CMR if they're looking for work. You bet there are huge frustrations, uncertainty, and morale is not what it used to be. IMO It still beats almost all the other regionals in many ways. Especially the Professional bunch of Capt's (especially MCO guys).
It's an excellent means to an end.

 

[MELIT]

I am new to the boards and have been reading all I can about different airlines. Any Comair pilots that may be able to look into the crystal ball and see what is going to happen to them in the next few years. And is it worth it to get hired by them?

Thanks in advance

I can tell you ASA is taking their airplanes and their jobs.

 

[Tarzan]

I can tell you ASA is taking their airplanes and their jobs.

Fcuk you MELIT. You were the guys absolutely giddy over ASA planes being transferred to your outfit. I don't see too many guys dancing over the Comair planes on our property.

 

[imacdog]

So where are people going to? Moving up to bigger equipment(JB,CO,SWA,UPS,FDX??) and using CMR as a means to an end or taking lateral moves? I left there last year for a fantastic job and am thankful to have worked at CMR and to all the people there. IMO people should definately consider CMR if they're looking for work. You bet there are huge frustrations, uncertainty, and morale is not what it used to be. IMO It still beats almost all the other regionals in many ways. Especially the Professional bunch of Capt's (especially MCO guys).
It's an excellent means to an end.

At first (last year) I saw people taking lateral moves, now the people I see going are going to majors, fractionals, cargo (ACMI), etc. From what I have seen, we seem to have a good percentage of new hires leaving shortly after training (or before completing it), and they are most likely taking lateral moves. If we don't keep shrinking into oblivion, upgrade time should drop by quite a bit. Personally I'm trying to get out.

 

[Homer Jay]

To be honest with you, I don't think Comair is going anywhere. The scope of our operation post bankruptcy though is still waiting to be answered. If you do come here, stay away from CVG! That place is a hell hole!!!

 

[DrewBlows]

If you do come here, stay away from CVG! That place is a hell hole!!!

That statement is very puzzling. Have you ever been to JFK?

 

[Homer Jay]

That statement is very puzzling. Have you ever been to JFK?

Yep and I'm very happily based there. Being in JFK is like working for a whole different company. It is an incredibly layed back bunch of people that can go with the flow and don't get worked up over stupid $hit. That and we don't wear those ugly leather coats. My original post by the way was aimed at living in Cincitucky. It really is a dump!

To quote Homer Simpson, "SO LONG STINK TOWN!"

 

[jstyle13]

Yep and I'm very happily based there. Being in JFK is like working for a whole different company. It is an incredibly layed back bunch of people that can go with the flow and don't get worked up over stupid $hit. That and we don't wear those ugly leather coats. My original post by the way was aimed at living in Cincitucky. It really is a dump!

To quote Homer Simpson, "SO LONG STINK TOWN!"

Yea I think the same exact thing everytime I do a turn there instead of Atlanta....can't wait to get back to da ATL from CVG........

 

[DrewBlows]

Yep and I'm very happily based there. Being in JFK is like working for a whole different company. It is an incredibly layed back bunch of people that can go with the flow and don't get worked up over stupid $hit. That and we don't wear those ugly leather coats. My original post by the way was aimed at living in Cincitucky. It really is a dump!

To quote Homer Simpson, "SO LONG STINK TOWN!"

Yea I think the same exact thing everytime I do a turn there instead of Atlanta....can't wait to get back to da ATL from CVG........

Holy cow! It's like I've logged onto bizarroworldflightinfo.com. The only thing I agree with is being away from people who "get worked up over stupid stuff". You didn't mention that JFK is an over-block dream, but that's another story. Operationally speaking I'll take CVG over JFK or ATL any day (though ATL isn't the mess it once was since Delta has been doing the ground service).

Why don't you guys wear the leather jacket?

 

[andym037]

So heres a question... I've considered applying at Comair lately. A decent place to work? I know that they're in a rather precarious position right now, but other than that, how are they to work for? What are the chances of getting JFK? Any thoughts/opinions?

 

[pilotguy143]

if you want JFK you'll get it. Great people. We'll see what happends Feb 2, but after the contract dispute gets solved, I think the company should be in a good position

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

So heres a question... I've considered applying at Comair lately. A decent place to work? I know that they're in a rather precarious position right now, but other than that, how are they to work for? What are the chances of getting JFK? Any thoughts/opinions?

Chances are you will get Kennedy whether or not you want to be based there. If a new-hire plans on commuting, JFK is probably one of your better choices.

The future at the company is shaky. I would go to an independant regional provider who seem to be doing better in this industry like Chatauqua. I would stay away from wholly-owned subsidiaries like Comair unless you have low time and cannot go anywhere. With that said, I would still go to Comair before trying to fly for Mesa.

We will probably be forced into paycuts by the bankruptcy court even though we made over 50 million dollars this year. As we will try to strike to prevent this cut I am sure our management team will block the strike through some kind of legal injunction.

 

[JonnyKnoxville]

Holy cow! It's like I've logged onto bizarroworldflightinfo.com. The only thing I agree with is being away from people who "get worked up over stupid stuff". You didn't mention that JFK is an over-block dream, but that's another story. Operationally speaking I'll take CVG over JFK or ATL any day (though ATL isn't the mess it once was since Delta has been doing the ground service).

Why don't you guys wear the leather jacket?

The leather jackets are sooo coool! I wear mine everywhere with my aviator sunglasses and pretend that I am a WWII pilot dropping the BIG BOMB.

 

[standaman]

The leather jackets are sooo coool! I wear mine everywhere with my aviator sunglasses and pretend that I am a WWII pilot dropping the BIG BOMB.

No you don't.

 

[andym037]

Thanks for the info guys! What about MCO? I would have to assume that its pretty senior. JFK would probably still be my first choice however. The main reason I ma considering Comair is because the pay is much better than where I am now, and if I got JFK I wouldn't have to commute. Plus, I want to move back to FL eventually, so the MCO base is a draw as well. Also, is there any training contract? How long is one typically on reserve? Whats the overall QOL like?

 

[MELIT]

Fcuk you MELIT. You were the guys absolutely giddy over ASA planes being transferred to your outfit. I don't see too many guys dancing over the Comair planes on our property.

What I posted was fact, yours is fiction.