What if socialists designed airplanes...

[Wanderlust]

Well at least your willing to admit that success should be punished.
I personally believe a flat tax will be the way to go as an alternative to the current progressive loop hole riden system. That way we will all be equal before the government.
And no more tax rebates for those who don't pay taxes.
En Mort Main

What are you talking about? How is charging a fair rate on capital gains as a primary source of income "punishing" anybody? Why should I be punished for "only" earning $100,000 a year?

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Well at least your willing to admit that success should be punished.
I personally believe a flat tax will be the way to go as an alternative to the current progressive loop hole riden system. That way we will all be equal before the government.
And no more tax rebates for those who don't pay taxes.
En Mort Main

The system is so slighted to the rich now, and they've got you defending them....

It isn't punishing success.... it is.... what is that corporate word..... rightsizing......

 

[En Mort Main]

call it what it is....ENVY...GREED...RANCOR
You feel slighted and want others punished for achieveing at a greater extent than yourself.
And in order to "rightsize" you would rather others get punished than the burden lifted off us all is very telling how you hate and the "evil rich." Even under the democrat beloved clinton captial gains tax was reduced and the economy was booming. Everytime you raise taxes you have to realize there is the law of unintented results. When all the wealth has been redistributed who will provide the jobs....who will provide capital when were all equal...the government?
But i will continue love living making my 35k hoping to keep it all and affording what i can and i hope you get to keep all you 100k and afford everything you can. I don't want you to pay more money than me since you make more because i understand that is your money you made with your work. Yet i also understand the millionaires money is his own as well.
I guess i am content with having what i have and don't look upon my neighbors with greed and envy.

En Mort Main

 

[Wanderlust]

The system is so slighted to the rich now, and they've got you defending them....

It isn't punishing success.... it is.... what is that corporate word..... rightsizing......

call it what it is....ENVY...GREED...RANCOR
You feel slighted and want others punished for achieveing at a greater extent than yourself.
And in order to "rightsize" you would rather others get punished than the burden lifted off us all is very telling how you hate and the "evil rich." Even under the democrat beloved clinton captial gains tax was reduced and the economy was booming. Everytime you raise taxes you have to realize there is the law of unintented results. When all the wealth has been redistributed who will provide the jobs....who will provide capital when were all equal...the government?
But i will continue love living making my 35k hoping to keep it all and affording what i can and i hope you get to keep all you 100k and afford everything you can. I don't want you to pay more money than me since you make more because i understand that is your money you made with your work. Yet i also understand the millionaires money is his own as well.
I guess i am content with having what i have and don't look upon my neighbors with greed and envy.

En Mort Main

Your last post had me chuckling, Mort. I suggest you read "What's the Matter With Kansas?" by Thomas Friedman.

 

[Big Beer Belly]

It's sad and shocking to be reminded of how many socialists there are out there who don't believe they can provide for themselves and are demanding handouts from the successful!

BBB

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

It sad and shocking to be reminded of how many people out there have a slave mentality and continue to live under relative disparity throughout the entire population....

 

[Wanderlust]

It's sad and shocking to be reminded of how many socialists there are out there who don't believe they can provide for themselves and are demanding handouts from the successful!

BBB

There's a lot more "successful" people looking for handouts in this climate. But keep drinking the Kool-Aid, BBB. You think more like a communist than the socialists do! Instead of working for the glory of the state, you're toiling away for the glory of the market! (Or maybe Rush Limbaugh, I'm not sure which.)

 

[En Mort Main]

I'm glad you find it humourous that some of us do not envy or lust after what others have or achieved. I don't wish anyone ill will about their success and believe every dollar we can keep from the government is a success.

Self reliance has left this country when we believe the government is here to take from the rich and give to the undeserving. I grew up amongst men who took pride in what the had and what they achieved and would not take a hand out even if forced. They never complained about not having stuff and never complained that the rich were rich and how unfair it was or is. But i guess that is getting bred out of the newer generations. All day long i hear about how poorly everyone is paid and yet it appears for the most part men have given up on being men and instead demand government take care of them and punish anyone who attains more than them. And most of all punish those evil rich people. And like i said i make 35k a year....would i like to make more heck yeah do i feel entitled to any of your money since you make more than i?...Of Course not. But Obama would probably think it would be fair. So fork it over, that is change we can believe in

C'est La Vie

En Mort Main

 

[En Mort Main]

"There's a lot more "successful" people looking for handouts in this climate. But keep drinking the Kool-Aid, BBB. You think more like a communist than the socialists do! Instead of working for the glory of the state, you're toiling away for the glory of the market! (Or maybe Rush Limbaugh, I'm not sure which.)"
- Wanderlust


Lol your arguements make little sense....Jumping from wanting to punish success to accusing people of being socialists without knowing what socialism or communism truly is.
I agree with the point BBB made. Stop demanding government do what you can't do for yourself, educate yourself, get ride of your class envy and enjoy life, life to short to worry about what everyone else has.

En Mort Main

 

[pilotyip]

How about the fact that 44,000 people,.05%, of the New York City population pay 50% of the New York City Income Taxes? The city is conconcerned if taxes are rasied on these individuals they may leave the city 10,000 leaving would bankrupt the city. What is fair?

 

[Cobra]

The difference between Obama and Osama is a little "bs".

Wow, I hope you did not strain your noodle with that one.

 

[Wanderlust]

Cobra, I've been reading your posts. Thank you for being one of the few smart ones on these boards.

 

[JustaNumber]

How about the fact that 44,000 people,.05%, of the New York City population pay 50% of the New York City Income Taxes? The city is conconcerned if taxes are rasied on these individuals they may leave the city 10,000 leaving would bankrupt the city. What is fair?

Reminds me of a great quote from Margaret Thatcher: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

 

[Wanderlust]

Reminds me of a great quote from Margaret Thatcher: "The problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money."

"Communism forgets that life is individual. Capitalism forgets that life is social, and the kingdom of brotherhood is found neither in the thesis of communism nor the antithesis of capitalism but in a higher synthesis."

-MLK

"Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate."

-Bertrand Russell

 

[JustaNumber]

"Advocates of capitalism are very apt to appeal to the sacred principles of liberty, which are embodied in one maxim: The fortunate must not be restrained in the exercise of tyranny over the unfortunate."

-Bertrand Russell

You sound like you are afraid of "the man" keeping you down. The beauty of real free market capitalism, is that if "the man" is being tyrannical, then you can become "the man" yourself by offering a less tyrannical company to employ people. The trick is in maintaining a government whose sole purpose is making sure we all play by the same rules, without favoring one "man" over another. That's libertarianism.