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What if it was a United or Usair Airbus today?

Singlecoil

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Jetblue has a major mechanical failure. Lives are at risk. The airplane lands safely and everyone in the media and on this board says, "Way to GJblue!". I'm just curious, if it had been an aircraft owned by one of the bankrupt carriers, do you think everyone would be tooting the horn of that airline? Wouldn't the questions naturally be, "Jim, do you think the airline is cutting back on maintenance and that could be a factor here?"
I'm sure the papers tomorrow will be positive toward Jetblue as well.

Let me clearly state that neither I, or anyone else could have landed that airplane better than they did earlier today. I'm just trying to foster a discussion of the media/public/professional perception of that airline versus others.

P.S. the GJblue above is a result of the flightinfo censors. Apparently the word go and the word jet cannot appear next to eachother on this board for somewhat obvious reasons. I tried to say "Way to Go!" ....JetBlue".
 
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I can't speculate on what those idiots would say. However I can speculate on what I would have done different and that would have been to touch down on the numbers instead of 4000 down the runway. But he did a hell of a job.
 

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been to touch down on the numbers instead of 4000 down the runway

Me, too. And I would have thrown an eighty yard pass for the win in the SuperBowl, to boot...

Do I sound arrogant?
 

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Singlecoil said:
the word go and the word jet cannot appear next to eachother on this board for somewhat obvious reasons.

Not obvious to me...I don't get it.???
 

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nosehair: I think it is a case of sarcasm not coming through in text. If not, I don't get it either.

And maybe they wanted to float a little to aid in a softer touchdown. It would definately give them more time for fine-tuning the flare. 12,000 feet is a lot of feet.
 

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Gutenberg said:
nosehair: I think it is a case of sarcasm not coming through in text. If not, I don't get it either.

And maybe they wanted to float a little to aid in a softer touchdown. It would definately give them more time for fine-tuning the flare. 12,000 feet is a lot of feet.
what would fine tuning the flare have anthing to do with keeping the nose wheel off the runway? They could have thumped it in and still finesed the nose gear on.
 

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That did sound arrogant. Sorry! But when I saw him pass the touchdown zone on the other side, I felt me heart skip a beat or four, and the first thing that popped in my head was his float. Like I said before, he did a hell of a job. Centerline and all.

I wonder if he used reverse thrust or just spoilers and differential braking.
 

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what if it were NWA? instead of all the newscasters talking about how the a320 has a good safety record, they'd be talking about the strike
 

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nosehair said:
Not obvious to me...I don't get it.???

The name of that alterego airline in the midwest is G.O.J.E.T. I guess there has been so much flaming over that word that they don't allow it. Must be the lawyers.
 

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FN FAL said:
what would fine tuning the flare have anthing to do with keeping the nose wheel off the runway? They could have thumped it in and still finesed the nose gear on.

Not sure how much jet time you have, but it isnt that easy to thump one in and then fine-tune your flare to finesse the nose gear on, especially when you have that kind of pressure to deal with as well.

Airbus guys correct me if I'm wrong, but dont you fly a pretty flat approach to minimal flare? Something to do with the computer making adjustments for you and it gets squirrely. The guy I fly with flew 319/320's for United and he said you dont flare much.
 
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AlabamaMan!!

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TXGold said:
I wonder if he used reverse thrust or just spoilers and differential braking.

I dont think they used either actually, at least no T/R's. Both transfer a lot of momentum forward, and they were trying to keep it back to prevent the strut from folding/collapsing. I may be wrong though.
 
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Singlecoil said:
Jetblue has a major mechanical failure. Lives are at risk. The airplane lands safely and everyone in the media and on this board says, "Way to GJblue!". I'm just curious, if it had been an aircraft owned by one of the bankrupt carriers, do you think everyone would be tooting the horn of that airline? Wouldn't the questions naturally be, "Jim, do you think the airline is cutting back on maintenance and that could be a factor here?"
I'm sure the papers tomorrow will be positive toward Jetblue as well.

Let me clearly state that neither I, or anyone else could have landed that airplane better than they did earlier today. I'm just trying to foster a discussion of the media/public/professional perception of that airline versus others.

P.S. the GJblue above is a result of the flightinfo censors. Apparently the word go and the word jet cannot appear next to eachother on this board for somewhat obvious reasons. I tried to say "Way to Go!" ....JetBlue".


What if I was a Sr Check Airman for Cathay on the 777? WHAT IF
 

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singlecoil,

I just read that ntsb brief, and it sounds like this JB incident is a repeat of the AWA incident. Also, in the brief it notes that this same malfunction had occured 3 times prior. If that is the case, this JB problem makes a total of 5 times this exact same problem would seem to have occured, despite a service bulletin being issued to supposedly rectify the problem. I heard that this particular Aircraft was manufactured in 2002, 3 years after the AWA incident, and yet the same problem seems to have resurfaced.
 

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why didnt AWA's incident get as much media coverage as Jblue did?
 

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Huh?
Because they were not circling for 2+ hours. Had it been on approach into say JFK from BUR, with no fuel to burn off, I doubt it would have gotten much attention.

I would bet, that the news stations monitors emergency freq for all services ie, fire, police and airport or maybe someone made a call, either way, it gave them time to be on scene and create all the media hype.
 
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