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From an undisclosed source (of course) who had an interview: $60K, but must move to a Flex crew base. I will leave it up to others to debate whether that's a fair starting salary for a new hire FO, but personally I would hate to try to raise a family on that in a major metropolitan area. Depends on the desperation level of the individual I guess.
 
That's been the starting pay since 2007. However with your per diem it's about 65k. The base thing has never changed that was always the case, SUPPOSED to live in one of their gateways. There are guys who live in CLT and commute to EWR several florida guys live all over FLA but the base is FLL etc. Most try to be within 1.5 hrs since that is the callout.

Can't be that bad since every FO AT FLEXJET makes more than probably all pilots at FLOPS and people want to work there so no shortage of applicants. Last I heard 7 year FO Pay at Flexjet is more than 15 year Hawker Capt pay at FLOPS.
 
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From an undisclosed source (of course) who had an interview: $60K, but must move to a Flex crew base. I will leave it up to others to debate whether that's a fair starting salary for a new hire FO, but personally I would hate to try to raise a family on that in a major metropolitan area. Depends on the desperation level of the individual I guess.

Is that $60k higher or lower than FLOPS starting pay? If we are going to debate the fairness, we need to compare the two.
 
However with your per diem it's about 65k.

Please. I beg you. STOP considering per diem as part of your compensation. It is REIMBURSEMENT for expenses incurred while on the road in service of the employer. Meager reimbursement at that.

Meanwhile, best of luck to the FO furlough guys in making the best choice for their families.
 
I appreciate the guys from Flops arguing that I'm not paid enough. I'll never turn down a pay raise! :)
 
I appreciate the guys from Flops arguing that I'm not paid enough. I'll never turn down a pay raise! :)

It is in all of our best interests that you are paid well for the work you do.
May you get a raise which will raise the bar for all in the new year.
 
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Don't let your jaw hit the ground when you see this!

That's been the starting pay since 2007. However with your per diem it's about 65k. The base thing has never changed that was always the case, SUPPOSED to live in one of their gateways. There are guys who live in CLT and commute to EWR several florida guys live all over FLA but the base is FLL etc. Most try to be within 1.5 hrs since that is the callout.

Can't be that bad since every FO AT FLEXJET makes more than probably all pilots at FLOPS and people want to work there so no shortage of applicants. Last I heard 7 year FO Pay at Flexjet is more than 15 year Hawker Capt pay at FLOPS.

27.1(d) 8&7 Schedule First Officer Primary Annual Salary Table
Year of Longevity
<55,000 lb
MTOW
55,000 lb
MTOW or Greater
1st
$48,000.00
$58,000.00
2nd
$49,680.00
$60,030.00
3rd
$51,418.80
$62,131.05
4th
$53,218.46
$64,305.64
5th
$55,081.10
$66,556.33
6th
$57,008.94
$68,885.81
7th
$59,004.26
$71,296.81
8th
$61,069.40
$73,792.20
9th
$63,206.83
$76,374.92
10th
$65,419.07
$79,048.05
11th
$67,708.74
$81,814.73
12th
$70,078.55
$84,678.24
13th
$72,531.30
$87,641.98
14th
$75,069.89
$90,709.45
15th
$77,697.34
$93,884.28
2010
 
First year pay at Flexjet is around $64k based on a 16 schedule. With hourly OT and per diem that would come up to around $70k. A sixth year FO on seventh year pay that I know made $98k, including OT, bonus and per diem, doing mostly 16 days with an occasional 17 schedule.
 
I was trying to see my ytd, but adp won't let me sign in.
 

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