What does Mesaba want?

[submachXJ]

For those that turned down the job and where told well if your looking again later comeback that was a different time in aviation. Yeah only 6 months ago but back then the comercial tickets on some guys were still wet and companies just needed to fill the seats with qualified individuals. Some got turned down but a lot of high flight risk people I imagine got hired because at least they didn't have other less disirable issues. And when you were told come back later if you want or whatever was said I think there was an assumption that this crazy hiring was going to continue. That is not the case anymore and Mesaba can be a lot more selective (IE return on investment-sim and training costs) and pick qualified individuals that will stay for a while.

 

[DeltaLima21]

Why apply for a job if you know that you can't afford a paycut at that airline? They probably thought you were shotgunning resumes all over the place and since you we not interested in interviewing, you we not interested in the job. I've got a friend that has been blowing off getting his resume into NJ for years now, and just the other week he has the balls to ask me for a recommendation...sorry, but if it wasn't good enough for you then, it's not gonna be good enough for you now.

The difference now is my current job is in jeopardy. I do have other income sources, but my time is worth more. Why wouldnt I take the higher paying job??

FYI- I only turned them down once. I actually went to the compassairline.com website and removed my resume after getting my current DC-9 position. After I removed my resume, they called me for the interview. guess they like to play hard to get

 

[Gator1999]

The difference now is my current job is in jeopardy. I do have other income sources, but my time is worth more. Why wouldnt I take the higher paying job??

FYI- I only turned them down once. I actually went to the compassairline.com website and removed my resume after getting my current DC-9 position. After I removed my resume, they called me for the interview. guess they like to play hard to get

Just to make sure I'm understanding this correctly...You submitted a resume for a job with an airline when you had a job that you were making more money with, rethought the situation and so you went on the website to remove your resume, but they called you anyway and you told them that you were not interested in interviewing. But now that your current job is in jeopardy, you want to reinterview for the job, but they said that they are not interested in inviting you back. Would you say that is accurate? Based on what you've written that is the way I'm understanding that it happened.

If this is the case, it sounds like you should have never submitted a resume if you had no intention of interviewing for the new job. It doesn't sound like you got the fair end of the deal but that's the way it is and maybe you should move on with other options. If this is not the case, could you explain it a little more in depth?

Like they say, "You never get a second chance to make a first impression." Maybe your first impression just wasn't worth a second chance in their minds...Good luck with your job search.

 

[DeltaLima21]

I submitted resumes to multiple places so that I could get the hell out of Air Midwest. USA jet was one of the first to call and I got hired and am happy with my choice. I didnt want to waste Compass Airlines time so i went online and removed my resume. Compass then called for the interview, I turned them down for obvious reasons. Because of recent layoffs at USA Jet, I am looking for plan B's like many other pilots are now. Thats about it.

 

[Metro752]

Mesaba wants the uninitiated suckers, apparently.

Oh well, I had an interview there once too, and canceled it. Now I cannot get one. Whoops!

They sure do expect a lot of loyalty for such low pay.

 

[Gator1999]

I submitted resumes to multiple places so that I could get the hell out of Air Midwest. USA jet was one of the first to call and I got hired and am happy with my choice. I didnt want to waste Compass Airlines time so i went online and removed my resume. Compass then called for the interview, I turned them down for obvious reasons. Because of recent layoffs at USA Jet, I am looking for plan B's like many other pilots are now. Thats about it.

Thanks for explaining it...I'm sorry about your situation, I think that it's unfortunate for you because there is really nothing that you can do to change your circumstances with that company.

Best of luck in your job search.

If it's worth anything...Leaving the redtail family was the best thing I ever did...I miss the people that work there but that's about it.

 

[Rook]

Master,

Don't sweat it man. Airlines are like perverts, they all have their weird little fetishes. Some have a thing for feet, others like it if you fart in their face. You just never can tell.

You probably didn't have enough time in a purple beech duchess, or you looked like the HR lady's ex-husband. You're obviously more than qualified to be a flaps officer on a CRJ900. Move along and don't dwell on it.

On a side note, I know Compass has turned away a ton of very qualified people, some I've known personally. Why? Nobody knows for certain.

You sir, with your rational thinking, do not belong on FInfo.

Good post

 

[Rook]

I've got a friend that has been blowing off getting his resume into NJ for years now, and just the other week he has the balls to ask me for a recommendation...sorry, but if it wasn't good enough for you then, it's not gonna be good enough for you now.

And this guy is your friend??!!

 

[Gator1999]

And this guy is your friend??!!

Not as much now as he once was...he's had a couple of bad breaks, and I feel sorry for him, but I'm sick of trying to help him out. If he doesn't want my help...fine. If he doesn't want to work at NJA, fine...it's not for everyone...but don't come back to me after everything else has fallen through and ask me to recommend you for a job that you obviously don't want. But yeah, in the end I still consider him a friend.

 

[Metro752]

Not as much now as he once was...he's had a couple of bad breaks, and I feel sorry for him, but I'm sick of trying to help him out. If he doesn't want my help...fine. If he doesn't want to work at NJA, fine...it's not for everyone...but don't come back to me after everything else has fallen through and ask me to recommend you for a job that you obviously don't want. But yeah, in the end I still consider him a friend.

Then recommend him, and stop being such a ******************************.

 

[xjhawk]

Okay, here it is for all you folks out there. Stop ripping on a guy who is trying to fix his career. We all could be in that position. "I am looking pretty good at my current job, I may test the waters for something better, but decide to stay." Then the crap hits the fan and you need something to just get your foot in the door and cannot seem to catch a break.

I have been at mesaba for a while now, I know XJ's minimums have gone up and down in the past years. from 1000-1500 all the way down to 250-350 for the wonder college kids and now again a bit higher. Why? because their circumstances can change. Guess what? From the guys I know doing the hiring, they all strongly go off of your attitude and your desire to be at XJ. Oh yes, and if you act like a jet snob, you will not get hired (but some of those made it through). Then again I know HR can be weird, that first impression sure does mean a lot.

good luck, I have a feeling our hiring is going to increase, but with other regionals laying off, I think our minimums might stay higher (thank god)

 

[Butters]

I applied there a couple of weeks ago and got the thanks but you don't meet our requirements email today. I have almost 6000 total 1500 ME two types ATP clean record. What exactly do they want?

How many airlines/companies have you worked for? I know they don't like people who job jump a lot. They think it is a sign that you won't stay or can't get along with people, FWIW.

 

[Vegaspilot99]

I too applied a couple weeks back and got the no thanks email this morning. 4900TT, 1800 PIC turbine, and 3 type ratings (one being a CL-65sic). Not sure what they're looking for. But as mentioned by Butters, job hopping could be part of my problem. Due to a couple of bad choices, I've had 4 jobs since last summer...although I'm presently at 2 of them. Still probably doesn't look all that great. I'm just trying to find a place where I can accure some longevity.

 

[Morning Wood]

When I told them no, they seemed surprised(Like I should only be so lucky to get a REGIONAL JET JOB at slightly above poverty wages). I told them I cant go from making 57.00 an hour to your 24.00 per hour.

Then why did you waste their time and yours by applying and interviewing?

 

[laserman2431]

I heard they're looking for pilots that have more posts on FI than they have in TOTAL TIME.

Are you sure that's not just the competitive mins?

 

[DeltaLima21]

Then why did you waste their time and yours by applying and interviewing?

Because I applied there before I was hired into my current position. Read the posts.

 

[Kaudbron]

Okay, here it is for all you folks out there. Stop ripping on a guy who is trying to fix his career. We all could be in that position. "I am looking pretty good at my current job, I may test the waters for something better, but decide to stay." Then the crap hits the fan and you need something to just get your foot in the door and cannot seem to catch a break.

I have been at mesaba for a while now, I know XJ's minimums have gone up and down in the past years. from 1000-1500 all the way down to 250-350 for the wonder college kids and now again a bit higher. Why? because their circumstances can change. Guess what? From the guys I know doing the hiring, they all strongly go off of your attitude and your desire to be at XJ. Oh yes, and if you act like a jet snob, you will not get hired (but some of those made it through). Then again I know HR can be weird, that first impression sure does mean a lot.

good luck, I have a feeling our hiring is going to increase, but with other regionals laying off, I think our minimums might stay higher (thank god)

I'm on the bottom end of the experience spectrum and got the thanks for applying, but you aren't what we are looking for letter. 1500tt, 2 jet SICs, and 700 jet SIC. I guess the guys that have been around the block are getting the dear johns regardless of tt? I don't think any of the previous posters interviewed. I'm not sure how they can display the jet snob attitude. It seems to be quite a few guys that get aren't getting the chance too, even with a ton of experience....

 

[jaxpilot]

Yeah screw Mesaba... I interviewed in Jan (with no turbine time) for a SF340 Street Captain position but was only offered an FO position. Thinking I could do better at the time because I had 2300TT and 400ME- I turned it down. Moved on and flew Pt 135 Learjets for a little while until I was furloughed. At the time I was just looking for any job so I reapplied at Mesaba in Sept with 2800TT 800ME and LR-Jet type and hear nothing. Oh well I have since found a Pt 91 Lear position paying over twice Mesaba first year pay. Not getting a job there was a blessing- both times.

 

[Ameriagle]

When I told them no, they seemed surprised(Like I should only be so lucky to get a REGIONAL JET JOB at slightly above poverty wages). I told them I cant go from making 57.00 an hour to your 24.00 per hour. As much as I want a MSP based job, I couldnt do it. They said they understood, and to give them a call back if things had changed for me. I obviously misunterstood them, what they meant to say was: "Go F#ck Yourself" --It only took them 10 months to call me for an interview the first time after they were hiring 1500 hour guys with no prior 121 experience left and right. Did they have a change in personel in the hiring department there???

You are joking right? Has nothing to do with your qualifications and everything to do with your attitude. Thats easy to see and I've only read two of your post! First, guys with your qualifications are a dime a dozen. Second, you have the nerve to question why a company has no desire to hire a guy that made it clear that he would not work for them unless it was his only option! Geeez, they swung and missed when they passed on you!

 

[Way2Broke]

Why would anyone work for a regional unless it was their only option?