What do Netjets guys do on long flights

[Fozzy]

Doesn't the iPod come through a seperate headset or earpiece than the aviation headset potentially blocking out aircraft comm in that ear vs. listening to the ADF, HF and VHF at the same time in one headset which is entirely possible?

No. Mine cuts out the Ipod when there is a transmission on the radio or when the guy next to me says something.
It is much much better than the ADF/HF.
http://www.lightspeedaviation.com/content.cfm/Products/MACH-1

 

[illeagle]

If you can do the job with tunes playing, i don't see what the problem is. Doug Masters flew like a madman in Iron Eagle even though Chappy told him to turn his music off. What would Doug Masters do?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IF6R1sJrWPk

 

[Bullitt]

If you can do the job with tunes playing, i don't see what the problem is. Doug Masters flew like a madman in Iron Eagle even though Chappy told him to turn his music off. What would Doug Masters do?
http://www.flixster.com/video.do?videoId=10904613&gallery=movieVideos11031

LMAO! WWDMD? God I hate that movie :laugh:

 

[acaTerry]

Chuck Norris would not approve.

 

[Twotter76]

Chuck Norris doesn't need an iPod. iPods need Chuck Norris.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Chuck Norris doesn't need an iPod. iPods need Chuck Norris.

Chuck Norris doesn't need anything to need Chuck Norris.

 

[realityman]

ACA, you make many good points. I agree with some and disagree with others. Ah well, that's the way it goes.

But it's a bit hypocritical, don't you think, to make jabs at people you claim need electronic stimulation 24 hours a day, when you yourself have almost 1800 posts on this message board?

I always enjoyed a little light music in the background from my Ipod (I NEVER watched movies on it in flight!). The ear buds fit under the headset and the wires paralleled the headset wires, so I doubt anyone noticed. It kept me alert on the longer flights. And I honestly don't recall ever missing a radio call because of it. But then again, I didn't listen to it at deafness-incurring levels.

However, company policy is what I operate under. I have no intention of risking a great job and six-figure salary over an Ipod. So now it stays tucked away in my jacket until I'm away from the plane. Sigh.

 

[Dr Pepper]

Do what you wish, but policy is policy and I am not going to sacrafice my Captain's pay (which I worked so hard for) so my F/O can listen to AeroSmith!!!!

Turn it off........plain and simple

Don't want to turn it off....explain it to the ACP....you're not worth it.

That's cool. As long as you or any other captain is actually telling your FO or co-captain that you are your not agreeable to the listening of IPODS.
A person that simply tattles on their partner is a spineless, worthless POS and deserves to be hung by their scrot.

 

[learflyer]

I don't know, i'm old school I guess. The ipod or any other mp3 should not be in the cockpit. Leave it in your bag to work out with. Why would you risk a good job like NJA with the ipod? You never know when an owner is going come up from the back to surprize you. One guy might be checking the windshield heat system with his cheek (resting), while the guy with the ipod is bobbing his head to the music. All it takes is one owner to freak! Just my two cents.

 

[illeagle]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who cracked the code. Just don't bob your head and you should be good to go.
www.uflymike.com

put the pod in your pocket. If the owner is feeling around in your pocket, that is a whole new pay grade that I am not privy to.

keep the volume reasonable so you don't miss radio calls.
Also, I find instrumental music is much better suited for radio awareness. Have fun out there.

 

[skiandsurf]

I don't know, i'm old school I guess. .

I dont understand these guys that feel the need to listen to music ALL the time (walking thru the terminal, flying). Maybe I'm old school, but music just isnt that important to me. Most of todays music is crap anyway.

And agreed, if the company policy prohibits their use, dont do it....it aint worth it.

 

[fischman]

Most of todays music is crap anyway.

The amazing thing about mp3 players nowadays is that they can play older music too.

 

[FLYLOW22]

The amazing thing about mp3 players nowadays is that they can play older music too.

Really?

 

[Hugh Johnson]

Do what you wish, but policy is policy and I am not going to sacrafice my Captain's pay (which I worked so hard for) so my F/O can listen to AeroSmith!!!!

Turn it off........plain and simple

Don't want to turn it off....explain it to the ACP....you're not worth it.

You've got some senior FO's.

 

[acaTerry]

But it's a bit hypocritical, don't you think, to make jabs at people you claim need electronic stimulation 24 hours a day, when you yourself have almost 1800 posts on this message board?

In what, 11 years? That's not so bad. I average only about 1.5 hrs a week in here cumulatively. Most of that is on my 3 hour show-go leads for a 7 hour hot spare period anyways.
Anyways, like I said, it's not as much the iPod as it is that our owners pay LOTS of money for pilots to NOT listen to iPods in flight. Right or wrong, they perceive it as better piloting, and that's what they pay for. That's all I'm saying here. Personally, on ferry legs I could give a flip, so long as I'm not flying with someone who "shuts down" when his iPod is on. I hate that look of "do not disturb" that appears when they plug in, so I can sit there twiddling my thumbs the whole week. Just plain rude.

 

[be-400xpdriver]

It's a requirement of our job, in the FOM approved by the FAA.

Wrong the FOM is accepted not approved. Big difference. If there is a conflict between the FOM and FARs then the FARs win.

 

[dc9]

Wrong the FOM is accepted not approved. Big difference. If there is a conflict between the FOM and FARs then the FARs win.

Are you sure about that? I thought it was always the most restrictive of the two. Regardless, I don't think your reasoning would be accepted by a CP if you violate the FOM, but not an FAR.

 

[gunfyter]

In any case... leaving the cockpit to attend to pax is not in the FOM.

 

[FLYLOW22]

Personally, on ferry legs I could give a flip, so long as I'm not flying with someone who "shuts down" when his iPod is on. I hate that look of "do not disturb" that appears when they plug in, so I can sit there twiddling my thumbs the whole week. Just plain rude.

Awwww. That's so cute. Do you need a hug?
:nuts:

 

[be-400xpdriver]

Are you sure about that? I thought it was always the most restrictive of the two. Regardless, I don't think your reasoning would be accepted by a CP if you violate the FOM, but not an FAR.

Thats what I was trying to say. Most restrictive wins.