What constitutes an instrument approach

[landlover]

Suit yourself. I've got kids' college savings plans to fund for a few more years yet.


My remark was tongue-in-cheek. There is an old addage in aviation: If it flies, floats, or f ..., well, you know, you're better off renting. There's a lot of truth to that, in my experience. If you have the money, then great! buy a plane.


Without making any overly judgmental statements I'll simply say that what you're describing is pretty rare. Most of the time aircraft ownership is a financial shell game that yields a toy for someone's personal while shielding them from some of the costs and taxes associated with that toy. Making money with an airplane is not impossible but it's an achievement reserved for only the VERY skillful.


Awww, now you've shot yourself in the foot. You've PROVEN that you really have no idea what you're talking about. Again, without making too much of a blanket statement, maintenance peace of mind through a 135 certificate is not automatic. Or is that not what you're saying? Perhaps you think that they'll do the maintenance since they're using the plane and that they'll pay for it? It doesn't work like that either.

No matter. Either way, you're thinking about signing a mortgage on a big red bridge in San Francisco that someone's trying to sell you.

yes dumbledork we all know it isn't as simple as I typed. Stop taking yourself and this board with so much passion as if it is all you have. ofcourse i was also being sarcastic about being dumb and rich.take it easy drink a cervaza and listen to some bob marley

 

[Dumbledore]

List? What list?

No, but it proves you don't, which certainly eliminates you from the list you created.

TD I don't know what your problem is but it involves perceiving things that aren't there. What list are you talking about?

Oops, sorry. Your behavior here got you banned. You can't answer that can you?

Well, while you're MUTE (please not the correct usage of the word here, everybody), I'm gonna take a brief shot at responding to your tide of vitriolic verbal vomit above (you know, the one where you start out saying something about, "If you don't own a plane you're not qualified to be a pilot.").

Simply stated, by saying the things you've said, you've proven that you lack the requisite experience and knowledge to have anything efficacious to say about the matter. Your statements about ADs and all the crap that owners have to know that non-owners don't are simply so much drivel. What you have to know to be a responsible member of the aviation community depends on a lot of things - many of which you are clearly NOT familiar with. Implying that a 747 Captain would be better off if he owned the plane and managed all the associated headaches and details of such is pure NONSENSE and you're a fool for trying to advance that theory here!

You also take some shots at avbug here that again prove that you have no idea what you're talking about. You mention engine failures. Well, they happen on firefighting aircraft and yes, they DO indeed fly in IMC at low levels in mountainous terrain. That's not an embellishment - it's what he does. If you'd pay attention you'd know that.

Avbug has earned the right to be crusty. He's been at this awhile. He's had to put up with punks like you for al lof his professional life. He's got a lot in his head that you could learn from if you weren't trying to nuke him all the time.

Anyway, that's enough said. I'll wrap this up with a little bit of language therapy for you since I know you like to challenge people on their misuse of words.

keeping up with the ever changing challenges of keeping an aircraft airworthy with day to day changes in compliance and rule changes that effect different systems and on and on and on it goes.

Please note the highlighted word. The use of this word is incorrect in this context. The word you meant to use was AFFECT. But you, being a big lawyer, skilled in the precise use of language, knew that, right? RIIIGGGGHHHHT!

 

[landlover]

Please note the highlighted word. The use of this word is incorrect in this context. The word you meant to use was AFFECT. But you, being a big lawyer, skilled in the precise use of language, knew that, right? RIIIGGGGHHHHT!

are you searious with this grammar correction? just chill!!!!!!!! you need more than a brew maybe some maryjane and a stripper, not sure that that would be enough.

 

[Dumbledore]

are you searious with this grammar correction? just chill!!!!!!!! you need more than a brew maybe some maryjane and a stripper, not sure that that would be enough.

First of all, this isn't a grammatical correction. It's a LANGUAGE correction. I made it becasue Mr. TURBO shot back at avbug that he was in for a rude awakening in the legal arena if he chose to pursue suing him. That makes me think he's a lawyer.

If he is indeed a lawyer then precision of language is a must. The diference between the word effect and affect is significant and he misused it. He's been blasting some folks in another thread for misusing the word MUTE when the appropriate word was MOOT. So I took the shot becasue I had it.

 

[Dumbledore]

And now for some other housekeeping.

yes dumbledork we all know it isn't as simple as I typed.

Aww, you can't get any traction without calling me names? You MUST be a DemocRAT.

ofcourse i was also being sarcastic.

really? What part of your post was sarcastic? Seemed pretty argumentative to me.

I am going to go out on a limb here and bet that you are infact the same perosn as avbug.the way you quote is somewhat similar. heck i may be wrong, wouldn't be the first time.

SNAP! whoosh, FWUMP.

I'm afraid your limb just broke and you fell. At least you’re okay. You’ll be a little stiff for a day or two though.

No, I'm not avbug. I'm someone else. The way I quote is the same way that Flechas, FN FAL, Birdstrike, and a host of other members do so why you would try to prove an alter-ego theory on that evidence is beyond me. It's what happens when you use the little quote button at the lower-right of the browser window. Or, you can do like I do sometimes and insert your own HTML tags to create the effects you want. You can see the results of this kind of thing right in this very post.

Look, you don't have to like avbug. He's very opinionated but he has his reasons for being so that are not merely speculative as is the case with a good many folks here.

 

[landlover]

And now for some other housekeeping.

Aww, you can't get any traction without calling me names? You MUST be a DemocRAT.


really? What part of your post was sarcastic? Seemed pretty argumentative to me.

I was being sarcastic about me being rich and dumb, im actually the opposite smart and poor. Well, since you refer to flightinfo as your house since you need to clean it you are in fact a bigger dork than first anticiapted. I dont know what party i'll endorse, being barely old enough to vote.


Take the advice I gave you earlier just chill out, its just the internet.

 

[NYCPilot]

Intentionally retracted.

 

[Yank McCobb]

Of course they are the same person. Absolutely. However, he is correct when he says "I"m not avbug. I'm someone else." He is not "avbug"...he is "Dumbledore". But there is no question at all that the same human being is the person behind both of these usernames.

By the way...everything TD says about him is 100% correct.

Also, there ARE pilots who have earned the right to be "crusty". "Avbug/Dumbledore" is not one of them. He simply is a jackass. Jackasses aren't "crusty" they are just jackasses.

Of course, in the tradition of "avbug", "Dumbledore" will require the last word. So, have at it.

 

[NYCPilot]

Intentionally retracted.

 

[Dumbledore]

You people really ARE idiots.

Trust me when I say that you have absolutely NO idea what you're talking about!

Once and for all, the owner of the handle "Dumbledore" is not the same person as the owner of "avbug" but you can go on believing whatever you like. You'll still be wrong.

 

[NYCPilot]

Intentionally retracted.

 

[NYCPilot]

Intentionally retracted.

 

[Dumbledore]

Okay, whatever dude.

This is the story I'm sticking to: I'm not avbug - no matter how much you wish it were so. I do happen to see a lot of things the same way he does but he is whoever he is and I am someone else.

All kidding/heckling aside, you're just plain wrong about what you're thinking.

 

[NYCPilot]

Intentionally retracted.

 

[avbug]

I'm flattered guys...but I only post under one name. One a couple of occasions I got on a computer before someone else logged off and inadvertantly used their name without realizing it...but that got straightened out. Luckily they were folks I knew.

For the record, I'm not dumbledore or anybody else, though I liked the character on Harry Potter. I have enough trouble being one person, let alone more than one.

As for the use of the word "mute," vs. "moot," a number of posters over several years have taken me to task for my dogged refusal to use the word "moot." Include a few in that list who do know whence they speak...there's a good exchange on the topic between TonyC and myself. I don't disagree with TonyC, and I certainly won't try to correct his use of the English language (though in truth it does differ somewhat from the Queens English, but we'll reserve that for another time).

I don't mistakenly use the word "mute," but rather use it as an expression of my intent. For starters, I don't like the word "moot." I never have. By saying "the point is mute," rather than "the point is moot," my intent is to literally say "the point is silent." Or in other words, the point of the word is literally without voice, which more accurately expresses my intent. Words are nothing more than a vehicle for the speakers intent, and my use of that word is intentional and deliberate. Further, a little research will show that while the use of the term "mute" is not contemporary, it's not incorrect either. You merely don't hear it much any more. It is my preference, and from me, you do hear it. If you were to hear it in conversation, you would hear me enunciate "mute," rather than "moot," would would clearly hear that I intend to say, "mute."

Like it or lump it, that's how I talk, and I type on here exactly as I talk in person.

As far as the regulation goes...when discussing points of regulation, I think stating the purest intent and reading of the regulation is appropriate. How it's applied on the "street" is each person's business, and I won't presume to tell someone how to apply it...only to discuss the regulation on it's own merits. Outside of that discussion, I have no desire nor intent to field the issue. That's for others to do. Once one stops discussing the regulation verbatim and in it's stated form (and any interpretations or ammendments thereof), it takes on it's own life and becomes a discussion of conjecture. The beauty of regulation is that it involves a simple, clear issue, and does not involve conjecture.

As my imagination is rather limited and I tire easily, I try to stick to the facts as much as possible, as it's usually the only solid ground I know...hence my return frequently to the center of the topic, and my general refusal to deviate far from it (discussions of language and screen names not withstanding).

I do not know dumbledore, nor am I dumbledore...and whomever noted that I avoid the political discussions and debates is correct. I avoid them in person, too. A wise person once advised me that where able, avoid discussions of politics, religion or sports...all sure sources for debate. While I enjoy a good discussion as much as the next, and contrary to what some may believe, I do NOT enjoy conflict or arguement...and debate was for me a high school thing.

Fly safe.