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The multimillion-dollar producer, who owns Shangri-LA Entertainment group, also reportedly paid for the flight.
Makes me wonder if he donated the flight for the movie rights......
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The multimillion-dollar producer, who owns Shangri-LA Entertainment group, also reportedly paid for the flight.
For the record, Misawa is an Air Base, not an Air Force Base. AFB's can only be on U.S. teriritory. Fox should know better.
I do not think a BBJ can be operated under 135. I think it has to be either 121 or 91. Correct me if I am wrong.
Makes me wonder if he donated the flight for the movie rights......
you think Bill banged those chicks on the way home?
A BBJ can be operated under Parts 121, 125, 135, 91, or 91K. Under Part 135, the number of passenger seats is restricted well below the certification limit (19 seats if my feeble memory serves). This flight was operated under Part 91 with some pretty serious juice applied in the right places.
You can bet bill left his payload on the plane.Thanks. However, I remember something about the payload. If the payload is over a certain number it cannot be operated under Part 135. I remmebr something around 7000 or something. Not sure. Not that it matters now.
You can bet bill left his payload on the plane.
I do not think a BBJ can be operated under 135. I think it has to be either 121 or 91. Correct me if I am wrong.
DOW flew them from Japan back to the US, I believe in thier G? whatever the long range numbers are now days.Yeah - CNN - I really believe anything they say. You gotta be kidding me!
The aircraft was one of Avjet's BBJ's, specifically N2121. The flight was not a 135 flight, but operated under part 91, so it was not chartered by Avjet, but being operated by Shangri La.
Dow has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with this aircraft.
AVIATION WEEK Fred George
The unofficial diplomatic mission done and a complete success, the operator of the Boeing Business Jet that transported former president Bill Clinton from the US to North Korea on Monday Aug. 3 and back on Tuesday Aug. 4 is now free to provide details of the that flight resulted in the release of American journalists Euna Lee and Laura Ling who returned with Clinton to Burbank. The aircraft is managed and operated by Burbank, Calif.-based Avjet Corp.
"We got the request on Friday, July 31 at 1100 AM and immediately we called the U.S. Department of State for assistance," Marc Foulkrod, Avjet's chairman and CEO, said. "We had to get a waiver from SFAR 79 that prohibits flights to North Korea, obtain an overflight permit from Russia, arrange for flight coordination between Japan and North Korea, set up ground support at Elmendorf AFB near Anchorage and Misawa AFB in Japan, request special Customs and Immigration services at Burbank, vet our crews with U.S. Secret Service and pre-position pilots in Alaska. We also had to coordinate with FAA and the U.S. Department of Defense because of the special and sensitive nature of the mission. State Department made it happen. Sixty-six hours later, we were airborne from Burbank to Pyongyang via Elmendorf and Misawa with President Clinton's team at 300 AM on Monday."
The mission was conducted as a private flight in accordance with FAR Part 91, sponsored by the aircraft's owner, Stephen Bing of L.A.-based Shangri-la Entertainment. Bing's BBJ has seven aux fuel tanks, giving it a 12.5 hour endurance and a 5,500 nm range. However, the longest leg on the Pyongyang trip was the 2,700+ nm, six-hour leg between Elmendorf AFB and Misawa AFB.
After departing Burbank early Monday morning, the Avjet crew flew the Clinton team to Elmendorf AFB where the aircraft was refueled and the second flight crew boarded the airplane. It then flew to Misawa AFB where it again was refueled and the first crew was dropped off, along with the flight attendants and other non-essential personnel.
The aircraft then departed for North Korea with President Clinton's team. The great circle distance from Misawa AFB to Pyongyang only is 726 miles, but the BBJ spent an hour in a holding pattern in Japanese airspace before being given clearance by the North Koreans to continue to Pyongyang . Foulkrod believes it was escorted by North Korean fighters during the entire time it operated in North Korean airspace.
The aircraft remained on the ground in Pyongyang for 20 hours during the President's diplomatic mission. The flight crew remained on board the aircraft during the layover. Once the President's team was safely back aboard with Lee and Ling, it departed for Misawa AFB, picked up the other crew members and few directly home to Burbank .
Foulkrod said the mission was tough, especially considering the short lead time during which all the preparations had to be completed. Bu he says the mission is generating a lot of new business leads for his company.
dude, it wasn't DOW....I don't know who works for or is so proud of DOW on this board...but it wasn't them.