What are some of the better Piper models?

[TDTURBO]

Can't beat the Archer...although a bigger useful load would be nice.

I don't understand why anyone would buy an Arrow these days. Seems like a lot of extra money, insurance, and maintenance costs to only go 10-15kts faster.

Because they are relatively cheap and a quick way of building retract time.

 

[414Flyer]

The PA28 is the venerable Piper Cherokee family. It is Piper's equivalent of the Cessna 172.

The "140" or "150" or "151" after the name indicates the amount of horsepower and other things, such as the wing design.

150 means 150 horsepower with a certain wing. 151 means 150 horsepower with a different kind of wing.

I am pretty sure the 28-140 still has 150 hp

 

[TDTURBO]

I am pretty sure the 28-140 still has 150 hp

I believe you are incorrect, most have had the conversion to the 150 STC which is cheap, but the "140" means HP.

 

[414Flyer]

I believe you are incorrect, most have had the conversion to the 150 STC which is cheap, but the "140" means HP.

No I think you are incorrect . Most came with 150hp, from the factory.

 

[JimNtexas]

For under $50K you can't beat a Warrior (PA28-151/161). You won't find an Archer (PA28-181) worth having for that, but there are plenty of good Warriors in your price range.

The Warrior is a highly reliable airplane. It is tough, simple, and inexpensive as airplanes go. It has a modern panel. It can lift two adults and small kid or two. It's not real fast, but it can fly all day on the 50 gallons of gas. In hot weather, just fill it to the tabs (36 gallons).

Try to find the 160hp engine, the extra 10 horses help. The Lyc 0-320 motor will last well beyond the 2000 hour TBO if it is being flown frequently and getting regular oil changes. It is as bulletproof as an airplane motor could be.

For any of the Cherokee line (PA-28-xxx) be sure the plan flies will trim up and fly straight. Some have been bent beyond fixing by one too many hard landings, and a bent airplane is no fun to fly.

For whatever plane you get, you need to budget at least 10% of the purchase price for first year maintenance.

 

[TDTURBO]

No I think you are incorrect . Most came with 150hp, from the factory.

That's not the point, if most came from the factory with 150 HP, then they would be called a PA-28-150 not a 140.

 

[Flyin Tony]

Best Piper???

Comanche Hands down

 

[TrafficInSight]

The Cherokee 140 is a Cherokee 150 with no back seat and no baggage door.

 

[VNugget]

Pa-28 TCDS

VII - Model PA-28-140 (Cherokee Cruiser), 2 PCLM (Utility or Normal Category); 1950 lb. Maximum Weight,
Approved February 14, 1964; 2150 lb. Maximum Weight, Approved June 17, 1965; for S/N 28-20001 through
28-26946, and 28-7125001 through 28-7725290.

Engine Lycoming O-320-E2A with carburetor setting 10-3678-32 or O-320-E3D with
carburetor setting 10-5009

Fuel 80/87 minimum grade aviation gasoline

Engine Limits For all operations 2700 r.p.m (150 hp)

 

[TrafficInSight]

On further research, the very first year of the Cherokee 140 it was offered with a derated O-320 consisting of a different prop pitch and an RPM limit of 2450, it made 140hp. It sold really poorly and the very next year it was upped back to 150. Just under 6 percent of all the 140's built are equipped with the derated engine and there are probably nearly none left in this configuration.

Today was the first I'd ever even heard of it.

 

[Grumman guy]

How about, None of them-get a 172

 

[DenverDude2002]

I flew the 172 and the Archer/Warrior, i prefer the piper in every category, i train in the piper and someday I want to have an Archer as a personal ac

 

[Grumman guy]

you dont know enouph to have an opinion.

 

[JimNtexas]

you dont know enouph to have an opinion.

Like all of us, he has a 'Grumman guy' and therefore is entitled to an opinion.