What all did the ASA Town Hall meeting cover?

[flyinhigh6165]

For those of us that couldnt be there....what all was covered?

 

[Brasilia Pup]

"Thank you for all that you do. Our management pensions are getting larger thanks to YOUR hard work. Hahaha!" -CT & SH

 

[johnpeace]

Merger coming along.
Have to control costs.
We're solving the staffing issues.
...
Same BS we get in the emails...

 

[SPDBRD747400]

Merger coming along.
Have to control costs.
We're solving the staffing issues.
...
Same BS we get in the emails...

I wonder why they had to reschedule till today to say the same old stuff?

 

[COOPERVANE]

I wonder why they had to reschedule till today to say the same old stuff?

I think they wanted to wait until the "new improved" parings came out so pitchforks wouldn't be at the meeting.

 

[johnpeace]

I was disappointed to be the only one there who was obviously pissed off.

 

[Medeco]

Tell us how your special lunch meeting went.

 

[resetjet]

He did genuinely look scared about the effects of the proposed ATP requirements. Not the first time I've heard him talk about it either. Other than that same old story for the 10mins I was there.

 

[wms]

There's a whole list of things to attract new pilots into the industry. Pay and benefits are not on it.

 

[johnpeace]

Tell us how your special lunch meeting went.

Hasn't happened yet. I'm looking forward to it though, planning to bitch on your behalf.

Got anything you want me to bring up?

 

[pkunzip66]

Hasn't happened yet. I'm looking forward to it though, planning to bitch on your behalf.

Got anything you want me to bring up?

Ask him on if any plans of opening up the Memphis base please.

 

[johnpeace]

Charlie said today that MEM base is on the table.

 

[pkunzip66]

Ipads? Who is expecting to fit the bill for this?

 

[johnpeace]

I'll believe iPads when I'm watching porn on one.

 

[79%N1]

Apparantly ipads are being tested at ASA. I imagine the cost savings from shipping, printing, OJI claims, etc off set the initial costs. Heck, add $500 in each check for a month and let everyone run out and get one. I've got the Jepp app and all the co. manuals/training material on mine and it is AMAZING!!! Bring a 1.5 lb tablet to work, or a 40 lb bag!!!!!

Oh to dream!

 

[Freebrd]

CT say fltinfo will replace ourasa as a method to communicate to the peelots

 

[Max Q]

Apparantly ipads are being tested at ASA. I imagine the cost savings from shipping, printing, OJI claims, etc off set the initial costs. Heck, add $500 in each check for a month and let everyone run out and get one. I've got the Jepp app and all the co. manuals/training material on mine and it is AMAZING!!! Bring a 1.5 lb tablet to work, or a 40 lb bag!!!!!

Oh to dream!

Please tell me how to do this.

 

[ualdriver]

I'll believe iPads when I'm watching porn on one.

Now that is funny right there.

 

[cybourg10]

He did genuinely look scared about the effects of the proposed ATP requirements. Not the first time I've heard him talk about it either. Other than that same old story for the 10mins I was there.

That is because ASA/XJT combined would require 1,000 more pilots to fly the same amount of block hours as we have now. Only downside for us is everyone would be flying 15 hour 4 day trips due to the new rules so everyone will be on min days off just to get 75 hrs. XJT has run scenario schedules with the new rules, they are very scared.

 

[79%N1]

Even more reason the number 1 priority is for trip rigs to protect us from this!

If that is what the future of this job will be, I am out as soon as I find something worthwhile.

BTW. What exactly about the new regs means we can only do 15 hour 4 days?

 

[Medeco]

Ipad are def. on the table. The guy handling the entire process is JB former ATR guy now in SH old job.

He filled in the RGT class I was in a few weeks ago.

In the long run it would save big money, for example he mentioned they were spending 20K on the first print of the new OM coming out. Getting all company docs. on this alone would be huge.

They have a vendor for the mount in the plane. But still have alot of questions to answer like data feed etc.

Estimated to get 3yrs out of each Ipad.
Yikes!

 

[rjacobs]

Estimated to get 3yrs out of each Ipad.

Cut that in half and I might believe it. If they would issue us one, I and I am sure everybody else would take better care of it. Hard mount it in the airplane, no way to get 3 years out of one. Better get Applecare on the whole fleet.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Ipads? Who is expecting to fit the bill for this?

First of all....it's "foot the bill" Are you "loosing" your mind? And you expect to get more respect. Learn the language.

It will save $$ the first year.
It will more than pay for itself in the first year, and save BIG $$ over the long haul.
They will most likely be issued to pilots. (That's the current plan)
Software/chart types are being reviewed at this time.

 

[pkunzip66]

First of all....it's "foot the bill" Are you "loosing" your mind? And you expect to get more respect. Learn the language.

*Yawn* My bad, everybody makes mistakes.

 

[Medeco]

Cut that in half and I might believe it. If they would issue us one, I and I am sure everybody else would take better care of it. Hard mount it in the airplane, no way to get 3 years out of one. Better get Applecare on the whole fleet.

The guy building the business plan, I am pretty sure, was an advocate of us taking them out of the airplane and "owning" them.

All he can do is present his plan, he wont make that decision. I think most reasonable people would agree with your thought.

 

[cybourg10]

Even more reason the number 1 priority is for trip rigs to protect us from this!

If that is what the future of this job will be, I am out as soon as I find something worthwhile.

BTW. What exactly about the new regs means we can only do 15 hour 4 days?

That is what the computer spit out when they ran the scenarios with minimum pilots needed. I guess it is the restricted duty time.

 

[Abernathy]

That is what the computer spit out when they ran the scenarios with minimum pilots needed. I guess it is the restricted duty time.

Jeez how unfortunate and financially unviable to run an airline with pilots working civilized schedules.

Sarcasm aside, what we have now needs to be fixed, but I think much of our issues can be solved by getting rid of lengthy trips where we are working crappy schedules for 4 days at a time.

I can work my butt off for 2 or 3 days, but usually it's day 4 that has me pretty jaded and wiped out.

 

[ILS8L]

There is nothing so terribly restrictive about the new rules. I believe the rest requirement is 9 hours min. "behind the door". Basically you duty in and out at your official rest place not 15 minutes after you block in. With a few exceptions (and the crap they are pulling in March) most of our overnights exceed 10 hours so it does not appear this would be a drastic change. Naps could still be utilized but they would be the shorter break variety not hours 8 hours on the ground in BQK. I think this rule is long overdue since rest time in an 8 hour reduced rest overnight can rapidly vanish. (hotel van is late, hotel is some distance away, van is late in the morning or runs at a preset time requiring crews to leave earlier than they should, etc.)