West Coast Charters

[rway36]

Job Posting

Any info on the current posting for Lear Captain & Co-Pilot. Since a poster earlier said the owner of the plane hires the crew, any info on pay, schedule, and bennies for this Lear.

 

[b350capt]

Which posting is that? If it is the one on climbto350.com, that position has been filled.

 

[b350capt]

And FYI, most jet's salary and benifits are negotiable during interview. Schedules are usually determined annually to meet budgetary needs and constraints. Typically if the aircraft is new to the owner, it means a good ammount of charter in the first year, then dropping off after that. However some aircraft fly constantly.

 

[rway36]

Thanks

350

Fully aware money is negotiable, however most companies have a standard they shoot for with new hires. And yes the add on 350. I was in SNA recently and was really impressed with all the guys from your company I spoke with in the lounge. Nice clean airplanes as well.

 

[stuckinGFK]

If one wanted to apply there, was typed and had several hundred hours in the Lear 45, would that help? Or does everyone start in the King Air?

Thanks

 

[bigbird]

Geez this place makes my regional job seem like a dream!

 

[Iamavi8TOR]

I read, or heard somewhere that the typical sched. was 5 on, 2 off.(for the King air side of things).

Any truth to this?

If true, then are you on a pager for the 5 on (can you be at home on pager)?

Off the pager for the 2 off?

What's the response time?

Need to live close to SNA?

How many RONs/month?

How much MEX/CAN per month?

Street Capt on the King Airs?

If not, starting FO pay?

Sorry for all the questions. Thanks for the answers in advance. PM me if you dont want to post here.

I'm from Socal, am looking for a good place to work at for a long time, with decent maintenance, not alot of RONs, decent sched, be based at SNA (I live very close and am sick of commuting), and that 350 looks like alot of fun.

 

[b350capt]

The King Air Captains work a 5 on 2 off schedule with one block of 3 days off per month. You get a blackberry and are on call for 5 days, then off for two days. When you are off, you are off, except for peak periods when you can be called back. This only happens around the holidays and you get extra pay for it. We have a 2 hour pilot callout. You can live anywhere you'd like if you can make it to SNA in two hours, but the pilots with the best quality of life live close. It is a hard commute when your show is at 5am.

The typical pilot here has approx. 10-12 overnights a month, but that changes from month to month. There is no way to accurately predict this. We do a LOT of Mexico flying, and a small ammount of Canadian flying. We are looking for street Captains for the King Airs right now. You can read our requirements on climbto350.com. If you would like to forward a resume directly, you may send your resume to [email protected].

WCC is a good place to work, good schedule for the Captains, a nice family atmosphere, and fun trips. The 350 is a blast to fly, and we do have 4 ProLine 21 glass cockpit 350s. Hope to hear from you soon if you are interested.

 

[On Your Six]

The King Air Captains work a 5 on 2 off schedule with one block of 3 days off per month. You get a blackberry and are on call for 5 days, then off for two days. When you are off, you are off, except for peak periods when you can be called back. This only happens around the holidays and you get extra pay for it. We have a 2 hour pilot callout. You can live anywhere you'd like if you can make it to SNA in two hours, but the pilots with the best quality of life live close. It is a hard commute when your show is at 5am.

The typical pilot here has approx. 10-12 overnights a month, but that changes from month to month. There is no way to accurately predict this. We do a LOT of Mexico flying, and a small ammount of Canadian flying. We are looking for street Captains for the King Airs right now. You can read our requirements on climbto350.com. If you would like to forward a resume directly, you may send your resume to [email protected].

WCC is a good place to work, good schedule for the Captains, a nice family atmosphere, and fun trips. The 350 is a blast to fly, and we do have 4 ProLine 21 glass cockpit 350s. Hope to hear from you soon if you are interested.

Are King Air newhire FOs trained on both the ProLine and non-ProLine 21 aircraft or do they start on one fleet or the other? How far East do your King Air trips get?

Can you give some examples of typical "areas" where pilots live that are somewhat affordable within the 2-hr radius? I have a friend who just might fit the bill in this case and he is looking to relocate back to SoCal.

 

[b350capt]

Well as far as FO training goes, all First Officers are trained on the B200 through in-house ground school. We are working on a program to qualify the First Officers in the 350 through SimuFlite or FlightSafety. All Captains and First Officers fly the C90B, B200, and 350 (including ProLine 21) models. Our trips rarely get farther East than Denver. We do a lot of Mexico flying, so its mainly North and South regions rather than East and West.

As far as typical areas that are somewhat affordable, that's an extremely relative term. The guys who live within 30 minutes have the best quality of life. If you'd care to live 1.5 or 2 hours away inland you can find places such as Riverside, Moreno Valley, Ontario, San Bernadino, Bracket and Pomona. Theses are not neighborhoods that I would recommend a friend to however. Typical 1 bedroom apartments in the neighboring areas are running from $1000 to $1250 per month with 2 bedrooms from $1300 to $1700 a month. Hope this helps!

 

[Autoparts2]

350

350.......Can you talk about Captain pay? If we all know what the pay range is then we might know if its worth putting in resume.

Thanks

 

[hiflyer731]

Captains start at $48,500. Junior captains are on the 5/2 schedule but one of the 2 days off is a "reserve day" which means you have to be available to fly but they pay you $300 if you do fly. Captains are also required to sign a one year training contract for the 350 training. FOs start at $29,330 and they get 4 hard days off a month. During any holiday period (Xmas, New Years, Labor Day, 4th of July, etc...) ALL pilots are required to fly even on hard days off and that period lasts for a week on minor holidays to almost 3 weeks during Christmas/New Years.

 

[b350capt]

I should add that you do get paid for flying on your holiday 'off days'.

 

[rodawg]

What is it with whining pilots? I have read through a good portion of the posts regarding WCC. We all knew what the industry would have in store for us from the time we decided to become commercial pilots. We knew that the money was never going to be that great, but we all kept going, working hard to become commercial pilots anyway. Now here we are complaining about equipment, pay, our futures so on and so on. Guess what everyone, were spoiled. Wait till the industry takes a huge dump and most of us are scrambling around looking for non-flying jobs because flying jobs are too hard to get. Then when you finally take that job at Starbucks because your aviation degree from Embry Riddle is obviously not going to help you,so now you stand there serving coffee to a bunch of yuppies and wish that you had a flying job, even if it paid crap, because crappy money sure beats a crappy job. Always remember that no matter who you go fly for, there will always be unhappiness somewhere amongst the pilot group. I think its just because pilots always think that they deserve better.

 

[johnsonrod]

What is it with whining pilots? I have read through a good portion of the posts regarding WCC. We all knew what the industry would have in store for us from the time we decided to become commercial pilots. We knew that the money was never going to be that great, but we all kept going, working hard to become commercial pilots anyway. Now here we are complaining about equipment, pay, our futures so on and so on. Guess what everyone, were spoiled. Wait till the industry takes a huge dump and most of us are scrambling around looking for non-flying jobs because flying jobs are too hard to get. Then when you finally take that job at Starbucks because your aviation degree from Embry Riddle is obviously not going to help you,so now you stand there serving coffee to a bunch of yuppies and wish that you had a flying job, even if it paid crap, because crappy money sure beats a crappy job. Always remember that no matter who you go fly for, there will always be unhappiness somewhere amongst the pilot group. I think its just because pilots always think that they deserve better.

We pilots have a lot of time to think about what we don't have...

Hey, how does the King Air 350 perform vs. the 1900D? Are they pretty similar in terms of performance and feel?

 

[rodawg]

The 1900D was a bit slower then the 350. As far as handling, it was a bit more stable, or so it seemed when compared to the 350. The 1900D was a great machine. I miss flying that aircraft.