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Going2Golf
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Honestly on that I have no clue.
I got a little fed up with the unit that I was part of and was honest with the Commander and what I thought of his lack of leadership, etc.
Needless to say, not long after that I submitted my paperwork to revert to the IRR. Actually didnt get hammered too badly on my OER from him, I still think he is an O2 thief..but that is my personal opinion of him and the fact that I wouldn't kiss ass like the others in the unit.
I am pretty sure if you turned in the Orders a few weeks out they would make every effort to work around your schedule. If it is just that, orders or a mandatory training event/activation, I don't think that there is really a whole lot the company can do about it other than give you the time off.
I got a little fed up with the unit that I was part of and was honest with the Commander and what I thought of his lack of leadership, etc.
Needless to say, not long after that I submitted my paperwork to revert to the IRR. Actually didnt get hammered too badly on my OER from him, I still think he is an O2 thief..but that is my personal opinion of him and the fact that I wouldn't kiss ass like the others in the unit.
I am pretty sure if you turned in the Orders a few weeks out they would make every effort to work around your schedule. If it is just that, orders or a mandatory training event/activation, I don't think that there is really a whole lot the company can do about it other than give you the time off.
Semore Butts
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My opinion
Netjets is a strong supporter of the military (52 people deployed this holiday season)
Netjets is my full time job, USAR is my part time job.
I make what drills my schedule will allow, or I drill during the week when I'm off.
I also do my reserve flying on my days off.
If on a set of orders, Netjets will let you off, it's the law.
Netjets is a strong supporter of the military (52 people deployed this holiday season)
Netjets is my full time job, USAR is my part time job.
I make what drills my schedule will allow, or I drill during the week when I'm off.
I also do my reserve flying on my days off.
If on a set of orders, Netjets will let you off, it's the law.
i would like to eventually get to netjets when i have enough time, and this thread is very informativekman said:
The reserve (formerly flex) schedule at NetJets has very little in common with the way the airlines do things. Instead of callout windows, we find out the day prior if we will be needed the following day. If not, the day is yours. You are not on tap to do anything with the company.
Also, NetJets uses their reserve folks like line holders. I can find out at the start of the month when I am forecasted to go to work. 99% of the time, that is exactly what happens.
Semore Butts
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M-crit
7 bags....
Seriously, it depends on your type of aircraft, how many PAX, how many legs. Sometimes it's one guy with a brief case, sometimes its a family with babies and car seats.
We are a team, I have never had a Cpt that didn't help with the bags.
Handling baggage is part of the job.
I'm a little guy, and handling bags has not been a problem using proper lifting techniques and working as a team with the Cpt.
For you to be so concerned about handling baggage, you need not apply.
(Just my opinion)
7 bags....
Seriously, it depends on your type of aircraft, how many PAX, how many legs. Sometimes it's one guy with a brief case, sometimes its a family with babies and car seats.
We are a team, I have never had a Cpt that didn't help with the bags.
Handling baggage is part of the job.
I'm a little guy, and handling bags has not been a problem using proper lifting techniques and working as a team with the Cpt.
For you to be so concerned about handling baggage, you need not apply.
(Just my opinion)
Going2Golf
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ratherfish
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Typical week
Typical week??? Good question with no easy answer. The only constant is change. It's unfortunately, one of those things you have to experience to understand. There have been numerous guys who have punched-out at the earliest opportunity because of the work schedule, including friends I’ve recommended.
Some trips you work so much it's hard to find time to take a proper shirt. Read 14 hr duty, 10 hr rest. 8 solid hours of sleep can be an elusive thing. Other times, you get a lucky draw and find yourself babysitting a broken plane for a week. You could be in Jackson Hole, but most likely in Teterhole. There can be seasonality to how busy you are too. There are fleets that get more flying than others. The bottom line is you will work hard.
If you have to know where you are going tomorrow or even later in the day or sometimes in the next hour, you might not like NJA. It can really drive you nuts on your last day, when you are wondering just how and when the company might be getting you home. To further send you over the top, you aren't allowed to speak the individuals who control your fate(scheduling). SERENITY NOW!
7&7? not a cocktail. The previously posted "7 on sucks, but 7 off rocks". really sums it up. It's tough being away from family that long, but every time you return home, it's like a week vacation....no correspondence with the company.
The old 17 day reserve schedule was tough. Got that t-shirt. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. The new 18 day reserve has not been tried yet. Read all about it in our contract since you may well be doing it.
Other reasons people leave besides schedule:
Don’t like loading Lovie and Thurston’s oversized luggage, loading catering, monitoring the lav service (nothin’ like the smell of blue juice in the morning), etc., etc., etc. BTW, you have less than an hour to do all this, on top of insuring that you are going to have a safe flight. I think it’s double the job of an airline/commuter pilot. If you get paired with a slug, it's 3x the work.
Generally, some don’t like being the hired help to the rich. They’d rather do bus driving or freight hauling than limo driving. This is very understandable.
It’s easy to feel like the Monty Python "piss boy" if you let it get to you. The flip side is there's 2200? on the seniority list now. Many are staying. Including me. Unless FedEx calls.
Personally, I like the variety of flying. I more often than not like the owners I fly. I like not being in busy terminals and not commuting on my time. (With the new deal you may be doing some commuting on your own time unless you live in one of our collection centers). I like the hotels and the hotel/airline points. I've had great "free" vacations 2x/yr. I have a preceived sense of job security(perhaps false). Most importantly, I like 99% of those I fly with. My main gripe is with the new contract: I will lose some of the state subsidies I used to qualify for.
Max out your 401k.
Typical week??? Good question with no easy answer. The only constant is change. It's unfortunately, one of those things you have to experience to understand. There have been numerous guys who have punched-out at the earliest opportunity because of the work schedule, including friends I’ve recommended.
Some trips you work so much it's hard to find time to take a proper shirt. Read 14 hr duty, 10 hr rest. 8 solid hours of sleep can be an elusive thing. Other times, you get a lucky draw and find yourself babysitting a broken plane for a week. You could be in Jackson Hole, but most likely in Teterhole. There can be seasonality to how busy you are too. There are fleets that get more flying than others. The bottom line is you will work hard.
If you have to know where you are going tomorrow or even later in the day or sometimes in the next hour, you might not like NJA. It can really drive you nuts on your last day, when you are wondering just how and when the company might be getting you home. To further send you over the top, you aren't allowed to speak the individuals who control your fate(scheduling). SERENITY NOW!
7&7? not a cocktail. The previously posted "7 on sucks, but 7 off rocks". really sums it up. It's tough being away from family that long, but every time you return home, it's like a week vacation....no correspondence with the company.
The old 17 day reserve schedule was tough. Got that t-shirt. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone. The new 18 day reserve has not been tried yet. Read all about it in our contract since you may well be doing it.
Other reasons people leave besides schedule:
Don’t like loading Lovie and Thurston’s oversized luggage, loading catering, monitoring the lav service (nothin’ like the smell of blue juice in the morning), etc., etc., etc. BTW, you have less than an hour to do all this, on top of insuring that you are going to have a safe flight. I think it’s double the job of an airline/commuter pilot. If you get paired with a slug, it's 3x the work.
Generally, some don’t like being the hired help to the rich. They’d rather do bus driving or freight hauling than limo driving. This is very understandable.
It’s easy to feel like the Monty Python "piss boy" if you let it get to you. The flip side is there's 2200? on the seniority list now. Many are staying. Including me. Unless FedEx calls.
Personally, I like the variety of flying. I more often than not like the owners I fly. I like not being in busy terminals and not commuting on my time. (With the new deal you may be doing some commuting on your own time unless you live in one of our collection centers). I like the hotels and the hotel/airline points. I've had great "free" vacations 2x/yr. I have a preceived sense of job security(perhaps false). Most importantly, I like 99% of those I fly with. My main gripe is with the new contract: I will lose some of the state subsidies I used to qualify for.
Max out your 401k.
WillFlyFoCookie
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Back Talk
Any of you guys watched that "Back Talk" DVD? It was actually quite entertaining. It seemed like there were even a few jokes in there. I laughed at a couple spots.
Anyway, that video will certainly teach you the golden rule of "lift with your legs and not your back." Of course I can squat 300 lbs so I'm not too worried!
Semore Butts said:
Any of you guys watched that "Back Talk" DVD? It was actually quite entertaining. It seemed like there were even a few jokes in there. I laughed at a couple spots.
Anyway, that video will certainly teach you the golden rule of "lift with your legs and not your back." Of course I can squat 300 lbs so I'm not too worried!
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