We all sell our souls to work for a regional

[WhiteCloud]

Hulas always has a fight going with the unions. That's his style. ALPA and TSA need to do something effective to stop O Jets. Cute little notices to non union pilots and not allowing jump seats has proven ineffective. Money is the only thing that counts to Hulas the accountant. If it doesn't hurt him in his wallet he could care less.

 

[h25b]

Hulas always has a fight going with the unions. That's his style. ALPA and TSA need to do something effective to stop O Jets. Cute little notices to non union pilots and not allowing jump seats has proven ineffective. Money is the only thing that counts to Hulas the accountant. If it doesn't hurt him in his wallet he could care less.

My point exactly... We've got a bunch of loudmouths that can't read on this forum. I think the whole thing is a pretty ugly deal for the TSA pilots. Unfortunately, attacking the GJ pilots is going to get them nowhere.

It's not that I don't have the capacity to prove how wrong you are, it's wasting my time on a psuedo scab like you will just get my blood boiling. Go ahead, take a job there. Thats why you are here. And you too will have your name added to the list. Jerkoff

Evidently you can't get through a single post without shooting your mouth off. Why don't you slow down your tonsils, pull your head out of the dark hole in which it resides, and read my posts. We're in agreement that your getting screwed, and I have pretty clearly stated that I personally wouldn't have anything to do with going to work at GJ.

It's a low-down, dirty deal what Hulas is doing to you. Hope that makes you feel better...

 

[A350]

Isn't it funny when an airline pilot moans about how he is getting screwed by someone else takine "additional" flying from them, when literally thousands of mainline pilot jobs were outsourced to the regionals.

The Go Jets deal is simple. TSA cannot fly these jets per another airline scope clause. ALA Freedom. Therefore, they must go on another certificate. The management playbook hasn't changed at all. Neither has the idiotic ALPO response. Scabs, scumbags, to be banished to the halls of jumpseat hell because they were doing what every other regional pilot has done for the past few years. Take what comes their way, be damned who gets the screw in the process.

Pot, meet kettle.

A350

 

[pilotmyf]

How can any of you think you are better then any other regional airline pilot out there including a gooo jet pilot. I worked at Air Wis for little over a year and I felt like a 2nd class citizen. We all should be making more then we do and be living better lives then the regionals afford us.

If you make as little as a new hire Skyway pilot or have as crappy schedules as mesa, who cares? We sold are souls to fly for a regional airline. The fact is with all the training and experience we are required to have no one should accept a job at a regional making $25,000 a year. And now with the right amount of money you don’t even need any experience to fly as a regional pilot (but that’s another sore topic)

Although I don’t agree with the whole gooo jet situation. None of you or me is any better then a gooo jet pilot. So stop your hypocritical rants and grow some balls and quit your crappy regional airline until they pay us a respectable salary.

If no one would accept a job at a regional because of the low pay and bad schedules the schedules would get better and the regionals would have to pay more. So all of you are to blame for the way the regional airlines treat us. None of you are any better then any gooo jet pilot out there. So grow some balls and stop drinking the Alpa Kool-Aid.

Then quit , go back to school and get qualified to do something else. There are way too many whinning b!thces on here.

 

[BE90flyer]

Learn to read better. I did quit the airlines.

 

[pilotmyf]

Learn to read better. I did quit the airlines.

Must be really bitter at the airlines sporto!!! And, I will work on the reading part.

So how big is the soapbox you are standing on, not even employed by an airline, but you can serve it up like you are. That year at Air Wis. must have given you just enough expertise to rant like the industry expert you are.

 

[BE90flyer]

Nope. Not even close to an expert. But I learned how messed up the airlines are. If this board isnt to rant and rave what is it for? I would say that I hit a sore spot with you. Are you feeling a little blue, down on life? Go a head and call me names. If it makes you feel better I'm all for it.

 

[hoover]

Why are you so bitter? You worked for an airline, didn't like it, and so you quit. You should be happy. If you are not, then I suggest you do your part to drive up pilot wages and quit your job.

 

[tjsatter]

Has Trans States Airlines furloughed ?? Who's job does a GJ pilot take away? To my knowledge no jobs have been taken away and given to anyone. They have just not been added to TSA and instead the flying has been alotted to a new operation. Their collective bargaining agreement hasn't earned them anything, that's the problem. Yeah, it's a loophole but your arguement is disingenuous... The whole thing sucks, but you are no better than anyone. TSA has never been any sort of first class operation. Ever since the whole GJ thing started everyone has started acting like TSA has been this wonderful place to work that is all of a sudden being torn down by this alter-ego. I have to call B.S. on this.

You sir are sort of full of it...

GayJets has screwed me out of an upgrade I should have recieved this past July. The number of Captains over there exceeds my proximity to the top of the upgrade list as of July. There is in excess of $3000/month pay differential I and many others in my class are NOT making. FUK those GJ Mudder-Fukkers. Of course if I had no honor I could be over there myself even now.

You sir, are full of Shiite, Kiss my arse, smegma breath

tj

 

[h25b]

You sir, are full of Shiite, Kiss my arse, smegma breath

Seems like you could use some more time in the right seat to grow up... Funny how things have a way of working out for the best.

 

[A350]

tjsatter:

what you fail to realize is, that without Go Jets, there would be no additonal aircraft flying for TSA......the scope clause of other carriers prevents it. So without the other certificate, there would be no chance to get the bigger jets and certainly no chance to upgrade.

Oh, thats right. No one else's scope means crap except yours.

A350

 

[h25b]

Oh, thats right. No one else's scope means crap except yours.

A350

Yeah, we're all supposed to be "brothers" right up it till a quick upgrade is in jeopardy.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

tjsatter:

what you fail to realize is, that without GJs, there would be no additonal aircraft flying for TSA......the scope clause of other carriers prevents it. So without the other certificate, there would be no chance to get the bigger jets and certainly no chance to upgrade.

Oh, thats right. No one else's scope means crap except yours.

A350

So how does that justify having a seperate seniority list? I mean, thats the real issue here....not the fact that there are two certificates.

As far as scope, G0Jets was created to get around AA scope to do UA 70 seat flying. The AA pilots shouldn't care one way or the other about the scope issue since the flying isn't being done for their company anyway.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Evidently you can't get through a single post without shooting your mouth off. Why don't you slow down your tonsils, pull your head out of the dark hole in which it resides, and read my posts. We're in agreement that your getting screwed, and I have pretty clearly stated that I personally wouldn't have anything to do with going to work at GJ.

It's a low-down, dirty deal what Hulas is doing to you. Hope that makes you feel better...

Actually, you can't get through a single post and actually make a point. You say that you disagree with the G0Jets operation, yet you come on these boards daily and attempt to justify them in every single thread that argues their existance. Personally I think that you're doing nothing more than creating what I would like to call "sophisticated flame bait". You were pretty good at doing that over on the Fractionals board too, but since NJA has a decent TA now I guess that fun is over.

 

[h25b]

Personally I think that you're doing nothing more than creating what I would like to call "sophisticated flame bait".

At least I'm sophisticated and can actually come up with some fact behind my opinions.

By the way, my interests in the whole NJA thing started when those select few idiots started mis-naming scabs as well and if you call 47K for a Falcon 2000 F.O. and having to live in DAL, PBI, TEB, LAX, & CMH by giving up home basing a "decent TA" you're too far gone for me to convince you otherwise. That "fun" is far from over. Santulli is laughing all the way to the bank. I think they got so wrapped up around trying to get the NJI flying they lost track of things.

As far as scope, G0Jets was created to get around AA scope to do UA 70 seat flying. The AA pilots shouldn't care one way or the other about the scope issue since the flying isn't being done for their company anyway.

Then by your reasoning the fines that Chautauqua was paying to the APA should have been going to United Airlines ALPA then ??? I mean if American's APA shouldn't/didn't care... But obviously they cared by the fact that CHQ has had to cough up millions so far.

Give me a break... Now I know how you guys ended up in this situation to begin with, if that's really how you view scope clause language.