General Lee
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skykid said:For someone who appears to knows so little and who's posts are so superficial, you certainly are arrogant. I'd quit on the 32 month thing if I were you, it might make you look foolish later.
Kind of like when I recommended you quit on the "look at the cost savings with the new Delta pilot contract" you repeated over, and over, and over, and over, and over. "Just wait for the savings to kick in" - over and over.
You called me "Nostradamus" for pointing out to you several months ago the situation that Delta is in now. That was no great stretch on my part, it was as obvious as can be.
I wish the best for Delta and you - just try to back up what you say. "Debt goes away in Ch11, or a lot of it" - c'mon guy. That's as superficial as it gets. You ought to do some serious research on the debt situation Delta is in right now and apply that study to an in-depth look at what could happen in Ch11.
There you have it, I have erased my stupid comment with the stroke of a key. (at least on my side) I have admitted that I do not know much about the process, and you probably do know more since you have been embroiled in it longer. That is true. As far as your Nostrodomas name tag, how do you know what will happen? Do you talk to our mangement team? Thinking you knew the outcome so long ago really is arrogant. Sure, we have debts and pensions problems, but Grinstein has tried to get the savings to cover it. He would have been on track, but high gas prices haven't helped. But, you knew that gas would stay high.... Come on. Get over yourself and trying to say that "YOU KNEW ALL ALONG THAT DL WOULD GO TO COURT." You could have thrown the dice and had a different outcome. I am getting sick of your know it all attitude. I have admitted as of late that we probably will go to court. Grinstein has been saying he would try to avoid it, and he speaks for the company.
Also, bankruptcy may be hard on us employees, but it will also finally be hard on the creditors. We, the pilots alone, have agreed to give $5 billion back (7500 pilots) over 5 years. That was huge for management, since the creditors only gave $100 million in concessions. Sure, AMEX and GE have given us some more loans, but no concessions. Will that liqudate us? Did it liquidate you or USAir twice? A good judge from GA (just like the DC judge for USAir that stated "I will not liquidate USAir) and your judge in Chicago that has allowed you 32 months) will help the situation. I don't have to have any experience in Bankruptcy to know that Judges are influenced by State officials that don't want any job losses. Even TWA stayed alive for many many years until AA bought them. That is what I predict here, Delta will be around in some form or another, but I am no Nostrodamas.
Bye Bye--General Lee
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