Warrant Officer to Officer

[sardaddy]

You can also apply for the Coast Guards direct commission officer program as a pilot to make the switch.

 

[kingairyahoo]

You can also apply for the Coast Guards direct commission officer program as a pilot to make the switch.

coast guard...arent we in the military section here?

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

Well reason is my whole OCS process with Marines has been going down the drain. The whole needs of the Marines apparantly has dried up alot. My other option was for my Army Recruiting friend to set me up with a another warrant officer and go ahead and just do warrant officer and fly that way. Problem is I know someday I want to be a full blown officer. I'm assuming if and when I get through WOCS and Flight School they're will be someone who I can took to that can help me out with this?

Lynx,
Sounds like you are not a warrant right now? I though be the title of the thread you were. Yet, you have a want to be an officer as oppose to a warrant. Careful what you wish for brother. Listen, if you're not a warrant or an officer and you want to be an officer then do what's needed to secure that position. Go for it hard. Remember, a warrant's job is to fly and the officer is in management. There will be less flight positions or bases in your future if you decide to be an officer in the army.

Are you an enlisted person or a civilian? Do you want to fly as an officer or not? Does it matter what you fly? I know the Air Force is putting less people into flight training. If the corps has dried up then what does the navy have? I understand that the services are scaling back on numbers, but they do need to fill slots yearly. If they too have dried up then your only choice may be the army.
When the army cuts back on officer flight school slots then it becomes very competitive to get in. I guess this is why you are seeking the warrant officer program? This would be your best choice.

Once in the army as a warran then you'll apply to be an officer and attend OCS is all goes well. They may or may not reclassify you into another branch. MSC or MI could be a possibility.

Good luck and have fun!!

 

[sardaddy]

coast guard...arent we in the military section here?

WOW! That was hilarious, I nearly fell off my chair laughing. hahahahaha. Whew! That was great. the tears in my eyes from laughing are making it hard to type. Really, it would be funny if it wasn't such an old joke.

You keep laughing, while I finish my patrol of Seattle and the Canadian border, never see a tent as I go TAD in an Embassy Suites or at worse in my stateroom on a cutter, get paid max flight pay, O-4 over 20 and log way more flight time.

Honestly, i am not offended and take jokes like that light heartedly. I did the Army gig for 10 years and loved it but the branch managers and I did not see eye to eye. I like this job more. I recommend it to anyone. It is a great way to go from warrant to commissioned. Plus you are guarateed to come in as a pilot.

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

coast guard...arent we in the military section here?

Just wondering, did you ever serve in the military? If so, what branch?

I will tell you that the USCG is MILITARY. They are not under the DOD, but under the DHS now days. They are more military then ever before, but they have always (since at least 1917) been considered a form of the military and then some.

 

[Lynxman]

Well right now I swear into the Guard on the 3rd. From there I finish my packet for WOCS which entails me taking my flight physical and AFAST within the next month or two. I'm going to Basic in Jan. 2010 hopefully WOCS right after that and depending on how backed up flight training is I go there. I have no idea if I'm going to get FW or RW. The goal is FW but I'll take RW for a little bit, but the main goal is get into FW asap.

 

[Lynxman]

O btw the reason why I want to do Warrant first is because their job is to fly I want to rack up the flight time. I'd like to do the whole full officer eventually though maybe with Marines if they will take them. I don't the future holds so much right now I just wan't to be a WO in the Army flying something.

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

O btw the reason why I want to do Warrant first is because their job is to fly I want to rack up the flight time. I'd like to do the whole full officer eventually though maybe with Marines if they will take them. I don't the future holds so much right now I just wan't to be a WO in the Army flying something.

Well, stick with that plan and run with it. I am sure you'll have no problem getting into the program. I understand they need to fill slots.

Heck, going back in from retirement and flying fixed wing was my plan if I saw a furlough. We had to furlough no one and I am sitting with 1,200ish behind me so I didn't have to pull a Bret Favre and come out of retirement.

 

[Andy Neill]

Be sure and tell your TACs you want FW. They will give you special opportunities to excel.

 

[Pistlpetet]

Don't Join the Army thinking you are going to get a FW transition. The average guy MIGHT get picked for a FW slot between the 10yr to infinity mark. After flight school work on your FW flying on your own time and dime.

 

[LAFrequentflyer]

I went enlisted to officer..Wish I had stayed an NCO. Just enjoyed the NCO role better. It suited me a lot more than officership.

 

[Lynxman]

Don't Join the Army thinking you are going to get a FW transition. The average guy MIGHT get picked for a FW slot between the 10yr to infinity mark. After flight school work on your FW flying on your own time and dime.

Word on the street is a big need for C12 drivers I think someone on the board was actually telling me this anyone wanna chime in on this matter?

 

[kingairyahoo]

Don't Join the Army thinking you are going to get a FW transition. The average guy MIGHT get picked for a FW slot between the 10yr to infinity mark. After flight school work on your FW flying on your own time and dime.

agreed...you cannot get into RW with the intent on moving to FW, there are about a million guys in front of you that will get the small number of FW slots well before you even hear about em.

...best advice i ever got was from my very first drill sergeant many moons ago "get what you want out the the military, cause they are dam sure gonna get what they want out of you" :laugh:

(hopefully that answers QOL's question)

and sardaddy...you kinda made my point for me, but you took the feather ruffling better than QOL did
...all in good fun gents, all in good fun :beer:

 

[sardaddy]

I know it was all in good fun kingair and I wish what I told you was actually all I did. Having been an Apache pilot prior to this job, I know we have it good compared to all the other services. In fact I wince every time I have to go to joint training as I quickly remember all the crap I had to deal with in the Army.

But I will say that over the years in the Coast Guard, I have taken many newly transferred pilots from the other services including the Army and had them nearly in tears after a high stress rescue. We all have a job to do, and we all make fun of everyone elses job. It comes with the territory and I was not for one second offended. I have way thicker skin than that. If you think warrant officers are brutal in their comments to each other, stick around a few CG pilots for a while. We beat each other with the verbal equivalent of aluminum bats.

 

[Jetdriver69]

I have to say flying helicopters as a dumb a** 19 year old no nothing WO1 was much more fun than flying jets in the USAF or corporate work. But the hotels and the pay is much better on the Gulfstream than tent city at Fort Campbell, Cairo West or Al's Garage. At the time it didn't seem too bad, but once you get older and get spoiled, it would be hard to go back.