Ralph Cramden
Took the Red Pill
- Joined
- May 7, 2005
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Good 'ole ORD. Greatest controllers in the world who really know how to push the tin out of town. When I was flying there (Shorts, F27, Dash8 & CRJ) I got thumped almost daily. Most of the time it was crossing runway takeoffs which will get your attention but not too serious. Climbout following in trail wake was much more prevelant in the CRJ due to similar performance but the controllers have always accomodated me when I asked to parallel upwind on climb to get out of the rough. Just ask.
Now I'm in the A319. Don't think this is just a "little plane following big plane" problem. A 757 or 777 can give a wild ride when you are in their wake no matter what you fly. The bus is fly by wire joystick flown and will return to your set pitch & bank even when being hand flown. However fifi's response to the upset is quite slow and by the time she starts the recovery you have put in your own correction input and the fun begins. We call it "stirring the pot".
Just visualise the other guy's wake and try to stay above and/or upwind. The really fun stuff is on calm days with high humidity when you can actually see the vorticies bounce off the runway and back up at you when on short final following a big guy.
Now I'm in the A319. Don't think this is just a "little plane following big plane" problem. A 757 or 777 can give a wild ride when you are in their wake no matter what you fly. The bus is fly by wire joystick flown and will return to your set pitch & bank even when being hand flown. However fifi's response to the upset is quite slow and by the time she starts the recovery you have put in your own correction input and the fun begins. We call it "stirring the pot".
Just visualise the other guy's wake and try to stay above and/or upwind. The really fun stuff is on calm days with high humidity when you can actually see the vorticies bounce off the runway and back up at you when on short final following a big guy.