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On my last commute I sat by a retired pilot. He says he regrets picking up extra trips and wish he would have spent more time with family.

His wife must be 30 years old then. Most of the gummers I fly with do nothing but bitch about how old and fat their wives are and don't mind picking up extra trips.
 
I'm not quite sure about W2 wages because they are not yet available. What I can say is that 2013 afforded me 119 days at work for the year. That turns out to be 9.91 days of work a month or 20 days off a month. That total includes 3 weeks of vacation and a small amount of sick calls. My time at Southwest works for me.
 
I'm not quite sure about W2 wages because they are not yet available. What I can say is that 2013 afforded me 119 days at work for the year. That turns out to be 9.91 days of work a month or 20 days off a month. That total includes 3 weeks of vacation and a small amount of sick calls. My time at Southwest works for me.

smug.
 
I'm not quite sure about W2 wages because they are not yet available. What I can say is that 2013 afforded me 119 days at work for the year. That turns out to be 9.91 days of work a month or 20 days off a month. That total includes 3 weeks of vacation and a small amount of sick calls. My time at Southwest works for me.

Yes, and many peoples times at other airlines works just as well for them too. That's the point of all the sarcasm on here. We all are fortunate enough to pay our bills by flying airliners around. It provides an income to allow any of us to fund what should be a nice lifestyle. If you aren't, it has nothing to do with who you fly for and if you do have a nice lifestyle it has less to do with who you fly for and more to do with how well you lead your life.
Comparing what you make compared to what anyone else makes is either a reason to make excuses for what you think you lack or a narcissistic need to gloat.
 
Yes, and many peoples times at other airlines works just as well for them too. That's the point of all the sarcasm on here. We all are fortunate enough to pay our bills by flying airliners around. It provides an income to allow any of us to fund what should be a nice lifestyle. If you aren't, it has nothing to do with who you fly for and if you do have a nice lifestyle it has less to do with who you fly for and more to do with how well you lead your life.
Comparing what you make compared to what anyone else makes is either a reason to make excuses for what you think you lack or a narcissistic need to gloat.

Some of the most bitter and generally unhappy pilots I've ever met are wide body captains making over 250/ year and work 10 days a month....!
You just have to read some of the usual posts here, people spending a lot of time trying to convince everyone that their airline is so great...! That they are enjoying their careers so much, everything from the layovers to what they feed them during the flight....., at the end is nothing but another performance of the sad clown!
 
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Some of the most bitter and generally unhappy pilots I've ever met are wide body captains making over 250/ year and work 10 days a month....!

Perhaps they are afraid the "Good Deal Redistribution Fairy" will overhear any expressions of happiness, and take appropriate action. :p
 
My W2 says I had a job the whole year and its looks good that I will have one next year.

All the other numbers are just that, numbers.

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to all my brothers and sisters who love to fly putting up with a messed up industry.
 
Perhaps they are afraid the "Good Deal Redistribution Fairy" will overhear any expressions of happiness, and take appropriate action. :p

There's actually some truth to that.
Besides, time value of money is something pilots are awful at- I'll have to make six figures for a good while long to catch up to those who starting teaching grade school at 23

No reason to be bitter- ever- this industry isn't taking my soul! But, I do NOT apologize for what we make.
And if more would do the math in total instead of singling out individual years more people would understand
 
Time away from base I think is where we should measure this from ... How many hours were you away from base.. The lowest with the highest pay is prob the best measure of how hard a pilot works vs pay !?!! ?? Some guys dose for dollars and make a bunch but still are working .. At least away from home ..
 
Some of the most bitter and generally unhappy pilots I've ever met are wide body captains making over 250/ year and work 10 days a month....!
You just have to read some of the usual posts here, people spending a lot of time trying to convince everyone that their airline is so great...! That they are enjoying their careers so much, everything from the layovers to what they feed them during the flight....., at the end is nothing but another performance of the sad clown!

I remember a story of an AA pilot riding on the jumpseat of a UAL pilot back in the 90's, when they were both at the top of the industry payscale ( an 737 F/O made what a SWA Capt made at the time and with a much better retirement). These guys were comparing notes and if one had something the other didn't they thought they were being raped. They were both genuinely stressed out over it.
Sometimes we are own worst enemy.
 
ah, the annual 'comparative measuring of our respective penii' thread. strong works, folks.

stay classy, FI.com!
 
Finding out the true number of what a different pilots make can be the foundation of a path taken.

It's a valid thread until the insecure ones...complain about 'dick measuring'.

Plenty of low paid guys come on here (I've been there), and tell it how it is...which is humbling

You know the thread title...so move on.

Bring on the W2s

fv
 
Working people are so cute.

Run off to their jobs every day. Rain or shine. Wondering how much the company is going to screw them.

Give 35% to our wonderful Government.

And then the CEO tanks the company, and walks away with more money in one shot than most make in their entire career.
 
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164K 158 hours so far. Have to fly on the 30th so add a couple extra hours. Part 91 for over 10 years. You can have that 121 shizzle.
 
Finding out the true number of what a different pilots make can be the foundation of a path taken.

It's a valid thread until the insecure ones...complain about 'dick measuring'.

Plenty of low paid guys come on here (I've been there), and tell it how it is...which is humbling

You know the thread title...so move on.

Bring on the W2s

fv


Fair enough.. It does give people small snapshots of what different positions at different airlines pay. But the problem is the data pool is small and as always, past performance does not guarantee future results.
 
I understand why the thread exists. It's one thing to look at airline pay scales, and quite another to extrapolate into how that plays out into no kidding, real world life. Here are my stats for the year. I don't' have a W-2, but pulled my Dec 20th pay statement (last one of the year) to get my total. Here are my stats for 2013:

- 8 Year SWA FO
-- I live in domicile and am pretty senior on the FO list, which means I am able to get
some premium pay?which is time and a half. I do spend a few extra hours on the
computer each month looking to trade or give away trips and pick up better pay.
- Blocked 770 Hours
- Averaged 12.5 work days per month
-- Didn't add it up for precise numbers, but estimate I'm gone from home 6 to 9 days a
month.
- Was able to get every holiday, birthday and every significant event for my three kid's
sports and music activities off. Bottom line: I only worked the days I chose to work.
- Made $205,441 in income. The company put another $19,106 into my 401K, and I'll
will get profit-sharing next September based on how the company ends up doing which
is probably another 6 to 9 thousand dollars. I maxed out my 401K contribution at
$17,500.

Happy New Year All. Fly Safe and Enjoy our chosen profession.
Cheers,
Speed
 
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